LSU vs Bama

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Won't have to worry about Bama being in the equation after this Saturday.

War Eagle!

I missed this gem.

[dagolfer33]

One things for sure, if we beat Oregon, beat Bama twice, beat Arkansas, beat Georgia, go undefeated, then we will be the undefeated, undisputed, national and BCS champs this year. Any other scenario leaves some room for speculation. I would forewarn GA and Bama that Les still has at least a couple dozen crazy ass plays he has been waiting to use all year.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Won't have to worry about Bama being in the equation after this Saturday.

War Eagle!

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I missed this gem.

did you expect anything less from a freaking barner?

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

did you expect anything less from a freaking barner?

...No, not really. It seems there is some denial about who the best two teams are in the country, and it is very clear. Now, we all know the system sucks. A playoff is the only thing that will fix it. What will be said when 4 of the final 8 teams left in the "playoffs" are from the SEC? It probably will happen more than not.

[RockHardTen1985]

OK ST is garbage, omg. Im so sick of hearing about them, they get beat as a 30 point favorite, recently. Why are we even talking about them? I would rather see Va Tech vs LSU then OK ST.

[clyde]

Mount Union rules!!



Roll Raiders!

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by clyde

Mount Union rules!!



Roll Raiders!

Yes, them and Wisconsin Whitewater are the entire SEC of division 3. They do playoffs actually to play for the championship every year. Crazy stuff those playoffs!! 6 straight years they've gone at it...stands at 3-3.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Yes, them and Wisconsin Whitewater are the entire SEC of division 3. They do playoffs actually to play for the championship every year. Crazy stuff those playoffs!! 6 straight years they've gone at it...stands at 3-3.

Fine , knowledgeable work.


God I hate Wisconsin!!

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Yes, them and Wisconsin Whitewater are the entire SEC of division 3. They do playoffs actually to play for the championship every year. Crazy stuff those playoffs!! 6 straight years they've gone at it...stands at 3-3.

they are great programs and fun to watch in the playoffs!

[slotdirt]

Also, bet you dollars to doughnuts that if LSU wins this weekend and Okie State figures out a way to really play strong against OU that the voters figure out a way to tighten up the divide between Ok State and Alabama. Maybe not enough to avoid the rematch like 2006 and 2007, but a lot closer than one would think.

Alabama is absolutely a great team, but their actual body of work just doesn't match up with Oklahoma State this year in terms of quality of opponents.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Also, bet you dollars to doughnuts that if LSU wins this weekend and Okie State figures out a way to really play strong against OU that the voters figure out a way to tighten up the divide between Ok State and Alabama. Maybe not enough to avoid the rematch like 2006 and 2007, but a lot closer than one would think.

Alabama is absolutely a great team, but their actual body of work just doesn't match up with Oklahoma State this year in terms of quality of opponents.

Ok State lost to Iowa State. Bama lost to LSU.
Bama beat Arkansas and outplayed LSU in a loss. Ok State, seriously?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Ok State lost to Iowa State. Bama lost to LSU.
Bama beat Arkansas and outplayed LSU in a loss. Ok State, seriously?

Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion

Wisconsin would beat OK ST right now.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Alabama beat Penn State 27-11, Wisconsin beat Penn State 45-7 when everything was on the line for Penn State. Is WI better than Alabama? Most likely not but we will never know because they won't play each other.

Kind of like Heisman voting. Montee Ball has a 6.5 yrds/carry average, 29 rushing TD's, and 5 Receiving TD's. Richardson has a 6.0 yrds/carry, 20 rushing TD's and 3 receiving Td's. Montee Ball isn't even in the Heisman conversation outside of WI, however Richardson could win it.

Look at the NFL some people would have argued last year that the best team didn't win since the Packers won as a sixth seed barely getting in. The packers roster is only slightly changed from last year and does anyone doubt that they are the best team right now in the NFL? So were they the best team last year as well and just played a few bad games throughout the regular season? Could that change at any time? yes. Will they be the best team by the end of the year is yet to be determined and will be determined in imagine that "the playoffs".

Unless there is only 1 undefeated team at the end of the year the national championship is a joke and will be solely about the $ and not actually determining a true champion

The beauty of the NFL is you can get away with a bad game.
LSU has not palyed a bad game, Bama has not played a bad game and those teams play the best teams all year long.
The common opponent argument is often ignored and probably rightly so based on the any given day theory. As long as LSU wins this weekend (likely even if they lose) they should play Bama for the title.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The beauty of the NFL is you can get away with a bad game.
LSU has not palyed a bad game, Bama has not played a bad game and those teams play the best teams all year long.
The common opponent argument is often ignored and probably rightly so based on the any given day theory. As long as LSU wins this weekend (likely even if they lose) they should play Bama for the title.

Who did Arkansas beat? they got crushed by bama and lsu. So why are they any better than WI who lost 2 fluke games at the end and crushed all their other opponents? You could say Arkansas best wins were Auburn (there was a reason why russell wilson chose WI over Auburn) and South Carolina(who beat no one really besides GA by 3 at the begininng of the year). Arkansas ranked 8 in BCS and WI is 15th. Makes total sense right?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Who did Arkansas beat? they got crushed by bama and lsu. So why are they any better than WI who lost 2 fluke games at the end and crushed all their other opponents? You could say Arkansas best wins were Auburn (there was a reason why russell wilson chose WI over Auburn) and South Carolina(who beat no one really besides GA by 3 at the begininng of the year). Arkansas ranked 8 in BCS and WI is 15th. Makes total sense right?

Wisconsin would also beat Arkansas.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Who did Arkansas beat? they got crushed by bama and lsu. So why are they any better than WI who lost 2 fluke games at the end and crushed all their other opponents? You could say Arkansas best wins were Auburn (there was a reason why russell wilson chose WI over Auburn) and South Carolina(who beat no one really besides GA by 3 at the begininng of the year). Arkansas ranked 8 in BCS and WI is 15th. Makes total sense right?

You cannot afford to lose "fluke games" in the current system. Arkansas plays in the conference that has produced what, 8 of the last 10 Nat'l Champs? The fact that the SEC doesn't win it every year is because they are forced to play each other all year which leads to losses.
I like Wisconsin a lot and wanted them to run the table as I thought they might have a shot vs. LSU or Bama.