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Old 05-30-2006, 04:39 PM
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Sure, but the question isn't geared towards jockeys, its towards owners.
The original question dealt with trainers Randy. I'm telling ya, they would take the cash.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:41 PM
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Frankel would've rather won the Derby with Aptitude than the BC Classic with Aptitude(had he not bounced that day).
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:43 PM
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Frankel would've rather won the Derby with Aptitude than the BC Classic with Aptitude(had he not bounced that day).
Mayeb Frankel would, but if you asked Mandella or Dutrow if they would trade their BC wins for a Derby win, they would say no way.
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Old 05-30-2006, 10:14 PM
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I would guess that 90% (or more) of owners would rather win the KY Derby than the BCC. Could be a good concept for the "Deal or No Deal" franchise!

Trainers and jockeys want to win the races with the biggest purses (as well they should).

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Old 05-30-2006, 04:43 PM
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The original question dealt with trainers Randy. I'm telling ya, they would take the cash.
Good point with trainers and jockeys with it being about the money. People kept saying how Servis, Ritchey, etc. would get such better horses because of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex but that has yet to be seen I guess - lot more money in winning the BCC - 5 mil vs. 2 mil. I was thinking from the owners p.o.v. where I would much rather win the Derby
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:46 PM
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Good point with trainers and jockeys with it being about the money. People kept saying how Servis, Ritchey, etc. would get such better horses because of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex but that has yet to be seen I guess - lot more money in winning the BCC - 5 mil vs. 2 mil. I was thinking from the owners p.o.v. where I would much rather win the Derby
As an owner its a no brainer, gotat say the Derby.
But Flag is trying to be clever and change our original argument from th other thread where we were STRICTLY talking about trainers!!!! he thinks hes dealing with a C student here.
YOu ask any trainer if he would rather win a 5 million dollar race or a 2 million dollar race and they are gonna tell you that they want the 5 mill. They make 300 grand for winning one of those. For two mill they make 120 grand. You really think there is a trainer who doesnt wanna make 300 gradn more than 20 grand? Give me a break.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:47 PM
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Good point with trainers and jockeys with it being about the money. People kept saying how Servis, Ritchey, etc. would get such better horses because of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex but that has yet to be seen I guess - lot more money in winning the BCC - 5 mil vs. 2 mil. I was thinking from the owners p.o.v. where I would much rather win the Derby
Servis just lost his main client, pretty much proving your point.
Believe me, these guys know the game is about money. Its only moronic fans who think they care more about a trophy than a lotta cash. Nice to have both of course, but in the end, they are no different than anyone else, working each day trying to make as much cash as possible.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:53 PM
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You know what this really means, that Churchill Downs has been cheap about the Derby purse. It should be a minimum of 4 million dollars. Think about it, there is no reason it shouldn't be. They only raised it a few years ago. Awful on their part.
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:16 PM
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I have asked that very question to a Derby winning trainer prior to winning the Derby and the answer was hands down the Derby. Most prestigous race in the world and it's one that changes lives forever....As far as owners go, once you get to that level what's 2 mil???
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:54 PM
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All of the high dollar Stud Horses going now did nothing in the Derby. The high dollar fees are who right now? How many of them are Derby winners? I know that there are less Derby winners than the rest of them but hey it's going to happen that way. I'll go against the last 15 Derby winner 's with the last 15 BC Classic winners all day long. And if Cigar wasn't shooting blanks I'd be the winner in a landslide. Two geldings in the last how many Derby's? I wonder how many BC Classic winners were Geldings? I'm too lazy to look. H ah aha ha ahaaha aha
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:56 PM
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Arlington Million for me
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Old 05-30-2006, 07:23 PM
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How bout yesterday's race; the Met Mile. Very good milers on the track are the breeding future.
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