NFL O/U Total Wins

wiphan · #1 08-09-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Philly under. I'd be interested in under 8.5 line even.

Philly could be the biggest dissapointment IMO in the league. Too much hype

slotdirt · #2 08-09-2011, 12:11 PM

I think anything less than at least an appearance in the conference championship is going to disappoint Iggles fans this year. I still think their front seven is a bit thin on paper.

somerfrost · #3 08-09-2011, 01:05 PM

Under looks good on Redskins, Seahawks and Dolphins. Breaks my heart to say under for Skins but they simply don't have the talent.

Antitrust32 · #4 08-09-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I think anything less than at least an appearance in the conference championship is going to disappoint Iggles fans this year. I still think their front seven is a bit thin on paper.

Linebackers are young and inexperienced, so its a gamble. The D-line has had extreme upgrades and will be solid.. especially with Washburn running the D-line.

Antitrust32 · #5 08-09-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Philly could be the biggest dissapointment IMO in the league. Too much hype

the hype is all media driven. Its not like they are the Heat declaring themselves champions for the next 5 years. Unless you are focusing on a tweet from the twit Vince Young, someone who at this point is our 3rd string QB.

the hype was built by ESPN. you certainly can't fault the Eagles for picking up some extremely good free agents/trades.

wiphan · #6 08-09-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the hype is all media driven. Its not like they are the Heat declaring themselves champions for the next 5 years. Unless you are focusing on a tweet from the twit Vince Young, someone who at this point is our 3rd string QB.

the hype was built by ESPN. you certainly can't fault the Eagles for picking up some extremely good free agents/trades.

Agree 100%. Eagles are trying to down play the hype. They definitely improved on paper, but that means nothing. You never want to be the team everybody is talking about in Preseason they never seem to meet expectations.

Antitrust32 · #7 08-09-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Agree 100%. Eagles are trying to down play the hype. They definitely improved on paper, but that means nothing. You never want to be the team everybody is talking about in Preseason they never seem to meet expectations.

I think its all up to Mike Vick... if he improves off his quality year last year, they will be tough. If he gets injured or reverts back to Atlanta Vick, it will be a tough year. (of course this is true for all the teams)

They have gone all in, so you could say Superbowl or bust... which would make your opinion of a dissapointing season a probability.

If you mean dissappointing as in not making the playoffs, I would strongly disagree.

slotdirt · #8 08-09-2011, 01:52 PM

I agree Kolb is a massive improvement over the goofy Derek Anderson/Max Hall/John Skelton trio from last year, but three wins is a lot to stick on one guy. Are the Cardinals right now better than either the Rams or the Seahawks? I'd say the answer is no.

Edited to add that I completely forgot the 49ers, who are also probably a better team than the Cardinals right now. Though the Cardinals do get to play the Vikings, Panthers, Bengals, and Browns this year (all of whom should be wholly atrocious), so perhaps eight wins isn't impossible.

somerfrost · #9 08-09-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I agree Kolb is a massive improvement over the goofy Derek Anderson/Max Hall/John Skelton trio from last year, but three wins is a lot to stick on one guy. Are the Cardinals right now better than either the Rams or the Seahawks? I'd say the answer is no.

Edited to add that I completely forgot the 49ers, who are also probably a better team than the Cardinals right now. Though the Cardinals do get to play the Vikings, Panthers, Bengals, and Browns this year (all of whom should be wholly atrocious), so perhaps eight wins isn't impossible.

Not sure the Vikings will be that terrible.

slotdirt · #10 08-09-2011, 02:17 PM

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Not sure the Vikings will be that terrible.

I think they're a stone cold lock for last in that division, though the Bears are going to regress dramatically as well. Vikings just aren't as talented on the defensive side as they were a couple years ago.

ateamstupid · #11 08-09-2011, 02:20 PM

The Cardinals' defense is still awful and they have no running game. It's gonna take more than Kolb and Fitzgerald to get them near the playoffs. Yeah, the division's terrible but the Cards are even worse.