7/2, 4 (CD): Bashford Manor S. (G3); Firecracker H. (G2)

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I just started following racing back then, so I believed the hype. But he disappeared as soon as he won the Juvenile Championship, so it's a moot point. With his reputation there was a lot of anticipation for his comeback. He ran OK a couple of times but either the others caught up or he just wasn't the same.

In retrospect, it's hard to get excited about those early season 2yos. They rarely train on, rarely stretch out, and a lot of the time go on the shelf.

If I had to guess, he probably would have done damage at the Del Mar meet if he held together. The 2yos were a ragtag bunch at that meet, with an ex-claimer winning the Futurity and a filly running 2nd a week after winning the Debutante. The better colts were route types that were just getting warmed up (ie Grand Canyon, Pleasant Tap, Single Dawn).

I mostly agree with you, but I think he might have been exceptional. Whether he'd have gone longer, who knows, but Tobin could throw horses that got a distance.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I mostly agree with you, but I think he might have been exceptional. Whether he'd have gone longer, who knows, but Tobin could throw horses that got a distance.

i think the churchill guys will have a good shot at toga thiis year were they were total toss outs in the past imo

[cakes44]

14-1 and ridden like he couldn't lose...pretty impressive for Wise Dan really, regardless of what was behind him.

[Indian Charlie]

Kent D. with another brilliant ride.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Kent D. with another brilliant ride.

I haven't seen all of Kent's rides at Churchill lately, but from what I have seen, he has been horrendous. What he did to Empress of Gold mid-stretch on Thursday was incomprehensible.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by golfer

I haven't seen all of Kent's rides at Churchill lately, but from what I have seen, he has been horrendous. What he did to Empress of Gold mid-stretch on Thursday was incomprehensible.

What, the right handed whip?

I thought the previous 90% of the ride was pretty dumb.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What, the right handed whip?

I thought the previous 90% of the ride was pretty dumb.

You are probably correct about the 1st 90% of the ride, but it still would have led to an open length victory if not for his striking the horse right-handed while hugging the rail, forcing her off stride and nearly causing her to jump the rail. If he just hand rides the entire stretch he wins by 4.