Master of Hounds in KY Derby? (Yes!)

[Seattleallstar]

yeah you would think even without a real top class 3 year old like they have had in years past, they can take advantage of this suspect crop of 3 yr olds with someone like Master. I also would hope they would employ an American rider for him and if not at least try to Frankie on him if Godolphin will let him.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

yeah you would think even without a real top class 3 year old like they have had in years past, they can take advantage of this suspect crop of 3 yr olds with someone like Master. I also would hope they would employ an American rider for him and if not at least try to Frankie on him if Godolphin will let him.

Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

Didn't they use American jockeys the last time they took a shot at the Kentucky Derby (2002 with Johannesburg and Castle Gandolfo)?

The 2000 Guineas is the same day.

[tjfla]

O'Brien said MOH is a KY Derby horse(he is also nominated to the TC)but the owners will decide between that and the Guineas

Arthur's Tale on the other hand was suppose to do the Wood-Peter Pan-Belmont route,but now are looking at the Derby. The only problem is with $200,000 in earnings he prolly won't get in since the Arkansas Derby will get 2 or 3 in and the Bluegrass will get Santiva and whoever wins in

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Didn't they use American jockeys the last time they took a shot at the Kentucky Derby (2002 with Johannesburg and Castle Gandolfo)?

The 2000 Guineas is the same day.

yeah but gone are the days of Gary Stevens and Jerry Bailey.

Since JR is taken, they will usually go with Prado or Gomez. God forbid Jamie Spencer is used

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

yeah I know but on occassion Frankie has ridden for O'brien.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

yeah I know but on occassion Frankie has ridden for O'brien.

When?

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

When?

I know they won the English St Ledger a few years ago with Scorpion

[Dahoss]

There's a better chance Cordero will come out of retirement and ride the horse (if he comes) than Dettori.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

I know they won the English St Ledger a few years ago with Scorpion

In 2005. According to an article I just read it was only the 2nd time he had ever ridden for him.

[Seattleallstar]

yes but Frankie and Obrien have said, if the opportunity comes up and the Sheik agrees he will ride for the Irish