3/5 (SA): Big Cap, Kilroe Mile, SA Oaks (G1's), Clocker's Corner

King Glorious · #1 03-05-2011, 10:59 PM

Absolutely the right call. The question that has to be answered is did Game On Dude cause the bumping (no) and then if he did, did he cause Twirling Candy a placing (hell no). When you look at it this way, there's no question that they made the right call. Twirling Candy was done by that point and the saving grace of the whole race is that Game On Dude had enough heart to get back in front of Setsuko at the wire. If he hadn't, Setsuko would have won the damn race and Game On Dude would have been an unfair loser after he was bothered at the top of the lane.

SCUDSBROTHER · #2 03-05-2011, 11:15 PM

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Absolutely the right call. The question that has to be answered is did Game On Dude cause the bumping (no) and then if he did, did he cause Twirling Candy a placing (hell no). When you look at it this way, there's no question that they made the right call. Twirling Candy was done by that point and the saving grace of the whole race is that Game On Dude had enough heart to get back in front of Setsuko at the wire. If he hadn't, Setsuko would have won the damn race and Game On Dude would have been an unfair loser after he was bothered at the top of the lane.

She comes out as they came into the stretch. Watch her float quickly out, and Joel has to float into Setsuko. Victor reacts by giving T Candy a bump. T Candy is tired, and comes in at the same time as Chantal's horse is moving out. Chantal's horse is moving out (slightly) because she hit him 3 times lefty. I think it's really pushing it to call what she did race riding. If you're gunna let this bitch float out that much coming into the stretch (nothing new by the way) then, you're gunna have guys reacting the way Victor did (bump from the outside.) I mean it's pretty amazing that the stewards blamed a horse who the other 2 horses intentionally sandwiched at the top of the stretch.

King Glorious · #3 03-05-2011, 11:18 PM

That's not what I saw. Maybe we had different angles.

SCUDSBROTHER · #4 03-05-2011, 11:30 PM

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That's not what I saw. Maybe we had different angles.

Watch the head-on as they come in the stretch. How many lanes does she float out there? You can see that. Tell me. In an instant, the bitch takes a away Joel's room, and he has to float into Setsuko. The rest of it results from what she did right there. On the turn, you can see the space between her horse and Candy. It's not tight. Right when they straighten out into the stretch, she taps left, and floats the horse out. That's not enough. No, she hasn't made it tight enough on the chalk. She then taps lefty 3 times, and floats out a lil bit (as Candy floats in.)

King Glorious · #5 03-05-2011, 11:32 PM

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Watch the head-on as they come in the stretch. How many lanes does she float out there? You can see that. Tell me. In an instant, the bitch takes a away Joel's room, and he has to float into Setsuko. The rest of it results from what she did right there. On the turn, you can see the space between her horse and Candy. It's not tight. Right when they straighten out into the stretch, she taps left, and floats the horse out. That's not enough. No, she hasn't made it tight enough on the chalk. She then taps lefty 3 times, and floats out a lil bit (as Candy floats in.)

I watched the head on for about 12 minutes after the race waiting for the decision. Do I really have to watch it again in order to disagree with you?

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 03-05-2011, 11:55 PM

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I watched the head on for about 12 minutes after the race waiting for the decision. Do I really have to watch it again in order to disagree with you?

Yes, because you're ignoring what she did coming into the stretch. Why do you think these horses are ping ponging to begin with? She started that by forcing Joel into Setsuko as they came off that turn. People really can't see that huh. She floats out how many lanes coming into the stretch?

King Glorious · #7 03-06-2011, 12:00 AM

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Yes, because you're ignoring what she did coming into the stretch. Why do you think these horses are ping ponging to begin with? She started that by forcing Joel into Setsuko as they came off that turn. People really can't see that huh. She floats out how many lanes coming into the stretch?

There's a reason why people can't see it.