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12-28-2010, 10:02 AM
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12-28-2010, 11:54 AM
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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12-28-2010, 12:32 PM
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No, noone on this board can compete with me for presenting facts and logic to any debate.
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12-28-2010, 01:01 PM
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The Main Course...the chosen or frozen entree?!
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12-28-2010, 01:23 PM
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12-28-2010, 01:44 PM
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In the end I presented a brilliant defense. The comparison of Wyche and Lewis was awesome. Both 8 years, identical records, identical number of years in the playoffs. I argued that in Wyche's first go, he simply had the advantage of not having his qb tear up his knee on his first postseason pass. And I showed what a disastrous result came from firing Wyche for the next 11 years for the franchise. I showed the mediocrity of coaches Wyche and Lewis was far, far better than what happened for 11 straight years in between. The Bengals did not get better when they fired Wyche...in fact they got much worse, until yes, when they hired Marvin Lewis.
Nothing I showed or argued was in fact incorrect by any definition. Pure lucidity can be tough to handle on here for many. Of course, they could hire a genius by firing Lewis like a Josh McDaniels or Rex Ryan, Or Steve Spurrier, or Todd Haley, or Bobby Petrino, yeah, all genius' at the time of the hiring. I still say, you're at the very best in a 50-50 crap shoot by firing Marvin rather than knowing what you have. Under the veneer of what the Cincinnati Bengal organization is, that is 9 playoff appearances in 43 years of existence, marvin Lewis was one of the top 4 coaches in that team's history. Trailing only Paul Brown, Forrest Gregg, and arguably Sam Wyche. Laugh at me if you must. I'm right and you all know it.
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12-28-2010, 01:46 PM
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On a side note he is a Browns fan.
Just in case you start believing in no agenda. juff tuh fact muhm
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12-28-2010, 08:40 PM
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Not to say smaller markets couldn't compete or even thrive but there is no doubt that there was a disadvantage.
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12-28-2010, 02:01 PM
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The Bengals have 5 post season wins in 43 years. In 40 of their 43 years they do not have a post season win. Comprehend just how bad this organization really is, and then tell me what a terrible job Marvin Lewis did there. Marvin did very, very well. Marvin's first playoff team was pretty good and his qb got hurt on the first play of the post season. He got a not very good team to win a division last year in a division with the two participants in the previous year's AFC championship game. His first really bad team was with Ryan Fitzpatrick playing qb....they started 1-11-1 and won their last 3 games of the season....did not quit. This year is another bad team and again is playing their best football right now....did not quit. I'm not a big Palmer fan but you know he is better than Fitzpatrick especially then.
I'm a Cleveland Indians fan too. I can still say Joey votto is a good first baseman. As a Browns fan, I hope they fire Marvin and hire a Josh McDaniels, or Petrino rather than a Haley or Ryan, or Mike Smith. After all, in 8 years with Marvin, the Bengals fnished ahead of the Browns 6 times. The two times he didn't are this year, and the other time the Browns needed to beat Marvin's team to clinch a playoff berth and Marvin's team beat them. You're darn right I want him fired. That's applicable I guess. I think the chances are better than 50-50 they hire a worse coach than him which was my point all along. Ok, You got me on the Marvin Lewis should be fired without question. You really did!! I'll stand alone on this one but is that the only item that proves you are wrong on message boards?? I was ganged up upon. I don't care. My points are solid and everyone knows it.
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The Main Course...the chosen or frozen entree?! Last edited by horseofcourse : 12-28-2010 at 03:27 PM.
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12-29-2010, 07:52 PM
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Your arguments are ridiculous. I don't care if he was coaching the Bad News Bears, he's made absolutely no progress from his good start and should be fired. I'm willing to bet you didn't see either of their losses to the Bucs and Saints. They were embarrassing defeats that were a direct result of terrible coaching. I can't even believe you're still belaboring this absurd point that because the Bengals suck historically, he should be allowed to go 7-9 and 8-8 and 4-12 for the rest of infinity. That's complete loser bullshit.
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