Its the "stop sulking over your losses yesterday, and get off the couch playalong"

[Esumner66]

I think the 5 is a bit quicker than the 10, maybe a length or two based upon the times (in Sept both ran PID and the 5 ran better at the 5f mark). BTW, I've put them both in an exacta box with a tri of 5,10/1,5,10/1,4,5,10.

GL

Chuck