Jeter A Jerk?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just got home, hubby had taped the play from earlier so he could ask me what i thought. my first reaction was jeter is a cheater..then i said that other sports should have a rule similar to hockeys 'dive' rule. we've all seen punters and kickers act as tho a defender wiped them out in an attempt to draw a flag-and sometimes it works. and now this...
he should get a suspension for his theatrics.

A suspension? For what? He was awarded 1st base before the trainer came out, etc. This stuff happens all of the time.

Anyone watch basketball? Are we going to start suspending people for flopping? How about when a reciever in football pretends they were interfered with in an attempt to get a pass interference. This happens in all sports.

The players job is to win. The officials job is to enforce the rules. This was more or less a missed call by the ump. Not cheating IMO.

[Danzig]

it doesn't happen all the time. and no, i don't watch basketball. if hockey, which most say is 'anything goes' has a rule against faking crap like that, why wouldn't baseball or football? you play to win the game, not play-act. i thought it was ridiculous, that behavior like that should be considered beneath a pro. but, i guess i'm all wrong about anything regarding these 'professionals' and 'men' and their poor behavior.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it doesn't happen all the time. and no, i don't watch basketball. if hockey, which most say is 'anything goes' has a rule against faking crap like that, why wouldn't baseball or football? you play to win the game, not play-act. i thought it was ridiculous, that behavior like that should be considered beneath a pro. but, i guess i'm all wrong about anything regarding these 'professionals' and 'men' and their poor behavior.

Yes, this kind of thing does happen all of the time. How often does a 2nd baseman or shortstop actually touch 2nd base when turning a double play? Half of the time maybe. Is that cheating?

When a guy traps a ball trying to make a diving catch and comes up like he caught it....is he cheating?

When a catcher frames a ball to make it look like a strike...is he cheating? If we start suspending people for this stuff no one will be playing because they will all be suspended.

I think people are making a way bigger deal out of this because it's the Yankees and Jeter. And like I said, I say this as someone that doesn't really care for either.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yes, this kind of thing does happen all of the time. How often does a 2nd baseman or shortstop actually touch 2nd base when turning a double play? Half of the time maybe. Is that cheating?

When a guy traps a ball trying to make a diving catch and comes up like he caught it....is he cheating?

When a catcher frames a ball to make it look like a strike...is he cheating? If we start suspending people for this stuff no one will be playing because they will all be suspended.

I think people are making a way bigger deal out of this because it's the Yankees and Jeter. And like I said, I say this as someone that doesn't really care for either.

i don't know how often it happens, i don't watch much baseball.

as for the play-it is blatantly obvious that jeter was faking. that would draw a 'dive' call in hockey. they don't call that unless they know for sure the guy is faking.
i'm not a fan of any team-and frankly i'm surprised that it's jeter involved. i thought he was considered one of the 'good guys'. in my case, it's got nothing to do with the team he's on, i'm not a fan of any of them.

thing is, altho many are saying 'hit the guy next time out', i find that distasteful. i don't believe that pitchers should be trying to hit these guys-how is that acceptable? again, back to hockey-they don't let these guys just hook each other and go at it. they sit for that, get fined, suspended..or in chris simons case, you go overseas to play as no one in north america will touch you. or mcsorly, charged with assault...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know how often it happens, i don't watch much baseball.

as for the play-it is blatantly obvious that jeter was faking. that would draw a 'dive' call in hockey. they don't call that unless they know for sure the guy is faking.
i'm not a fan of any team-and frankly i'm surprised that it's jeter involved. i thought he was considered one of the 'good guys'. in my case, it's got nothing to do with the team he's on, i'm not a fan of any of them.

thing is, altho many are saying 'hit the guy next time out', i find that distasteful. i don't believe that pitchers should be trying to hit these guys-how is that acceptable? again, back to hockey-they don't let these guys just hook each other and go at it. they sit for that, get fined, suspended..or in chris simons case, you go overseas to play as no one in north america will touch you. or mcsorly, charged with assault...

Zig, Jeter should be sent a message by the league. You attacked the integrity of the sport. Get some better morals. Find some sportsmanship. Win the right way. Don't go that far out of your way to deceive our umpires. He crossed the line here. It should surprise nobody that this is the organization caught doing this crap. He thinks it's funny. I'm sure the Wallstreet guys think it's funny that they ripped the nation off, too.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Zig, Jeter should be sent a message by the league. You attacked the integrity of the sport. Get some better morals. Find some sportsmanship. Win the right way. Don't go that far out of your way to deceive our umpires. He crossed the line here. It should surprise nobody that this is the organization caught doing this crap.

Answer a question for me. If Jeter had really gotten hit and the ump thought it hit the bat first, does the catcher have an obligation to correct the ump if he knew the truth? Would the catcher need a message sent to him by the league?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Answer a question for me. If Jeter had really gotten hit and the ump thought it hit the bat first, does the catcher have an obligation to correct the ump if he knew the truth? Would the catcher need a message sent to him by the league?

No. What you're not picking up on is the level of deception involved here. It's one thing to keep your mouth shut. It's another thing to act really badly hurt (when you're not even hit by a ball.) All these examples mentioned are mainly people playing the game, and accepting the results of the umps. That's not what took place here. Jeter went to Broadway in front of a National Audience. Hour and a half later, he admitted that the ball never even hit him. Admitted he had put on a deceitful display in order to try to win the wrong way.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thing is, altho many are saying 'hit the guy next time out', i find that distasteful. i don't believe that pitchers should be trying to hit these guys-how is that acceptable? again, back to hockey-they don't let these guys just hook each other and go at it. they sit for that, get fined, suspended..or in chris simons case, you go overseas to play as no one in north america will touch you. or mcsorly, charged with assault...

Ziggy come on!! grow a pair! This is baseball, not mens figure skating!

[randallscott35]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...ht_in_the_act/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Ziggy come on!! grow a pair! This is baseball, not mens figure skating!

i'd watch skating if they let them have a check thrown once in a while.

i don't watch baseball, it's boring. and i absolutely refuse to grow a pair.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it doesn't happen all the time. and no, i don't watch basketball. if hockey, which most say is 'anything goes' has a rule against faking crap like that, why wouldn't baseball or football? you play to win the game, not play-act. i thought it was ridiculous, that behavior like that should be considered beneath a pro. but, i guess i'm all wrong about anything regarding these 'professionals' and 'men' and their poor behavior.

pretty much

its its okay we still love ya Zig.