Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers

[the_fat_man]

I stand corrected. You correctly predicted that the fastest horse in the country would SLOW DOWN the pace. Hope the $15 exacta was all you.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I stand corrected. You correctly predicted that the fastest horse in the country would SLOW DOWN the pace. Hope the $15 exacta was all you.

poor baby.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

poor baby.

Enjoy, Joey.

Hope it takes away the sting of getting it stuck you know where with your Quality Road.

Then again, you're the one with the ax to grind.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Enjoy, Joey.

Hope it takes away the sting of getting it stuck you know where with your Quality Road.

Then again, you're the one with the ax to grind.

You just can't stand it when anybody else is right about pace except you.

If you've ever read what I've said about QR, I'm actually not a big fan, so the joke's on you.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You just can't stand it when anybody else is right about pace except you.

If you've ever read what I've said about QR, I'm actually not a big fan, so the joke's on you.

Really? But since I've been just about his biggest detractor on this board, don't I get any credit? Notice how I picked out all the people who disagreed with me and let them know it. Notice how many posted about me being correct.

I don't think that too many agreed with your 'slow pace' theory before the race. But, that's the way it played out and we'll give you credit for it. At least you felt the need to come back and take the credit. However, as was pointed out above, the winner came into Big Drama at the start causing him to veer inward and bump the horse to his inside, which caused a bit of a chain reaction with the other inside horses. The end result being that BD didn't come out as clean/fast as he'd have otherwise. So, we'll never know what really happens if BD gets a clean break. Maybe the pace isn't that slow. Maybe the race shakes out differently then.

This is like having to repeatedly hear about Vail of York in the BC. Arguably the most perfect trip in the history of the BC and we still hear about it.

Of course, racing luck plays a huge part in the results and any notion of 'correct' depends on it to some extent.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Really? But since I've been just about his biggest detractor on this board, don't I get any credit? Notice how I picked out all the people who disagreed with me and let them know it. Notice how many posted about me being correct.

I don't think that too many agreed with your 'slow pace' theory before the race. But, that's the way it played out and we'll give you credit for it. At least you felt the need to come back and take the credit. However, as was pointed out above, the winner came into Big Drama at the start causing him to veer inward and bump the horse to his inside, which caused a bit of a chain reaction with the other inside horses. The end result being that BD didn't come out as clean/fast as he'd have otherwise. So, we'll never know what really happens if BD gets a clean break. Maybe the pace isn't that slow. Maybe the race shakes out differently then.

This is like having to repeatedly hear about Vail of York in the BC. Arguably the most perfect trip in the history of the BC and we still hear about it.

Of course, racing luck plays a huge part in the results and any notion of 'correct' depends on it to some extent.

If Coa wanted the lead, he could've had it. He didn't want it. Even if Big Drama broke a length slow, the horse is still plenty capable of running a faster first quarter than Majesticperfection did.

As for 'taking credit,' it's kinda hard to resist after watching you, yet again, complain about the jockeys whenever you're wrong about something.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If Coa wanted the lead, he could've had it. He didn't want it. Even if Big Drama broke a length slow, the horse is still plenty capable of running a faster first quarter than Majesticperfection did.

As for 'taking credit,' it's kinda hard to resist after watching you, yet again, complain about the jockeys whenever you're wrong about something.

I 'complained' because the early fractions of a relatively major stake race were the SLOWEST of 4 other sprints that day -- 2 of which were 2 year old maiden races, one at 6.5F. I 'complained' because of all of the hype concerning the FASTEST horse in the country sprinting, and then we get that early pace. I then also took the time to take a look at the replay and gain some 'understanding' as to WHY Coa didn't go early. Clearly, there's a distinction between INTENTIONALLY not going early in a knowingly SLOW pace, which is, apparently, your contention, and, not going early because you were compromised at the start and doing so would mean rushing more than you want to.

I blame jocks a lot. So do others. So, in fact, do you. (I won't bother to provide the evidence.) I do, however, acknowledge when there were circumstances that compromised a jock's ride and impacted upon the shape of the race. I have to because my plays depend on objectively interpreting information.

You on the other hand are 'right' irrespective of the events. Doesn't have anything to do about luck.