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Old 08-07-2010, 08:54 PM
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He was too "slow", right?

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Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:01 PM
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Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.
Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:06 PM
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111 Beyer for Blame (not buying it)
So 110 for QR and 108 for MM? Basically the same figures as the Met?

I am sure CJ or someone can justify it, but there is no way that Blame's performance was 8 pts better than the Foster. The track was definitely slow today considering how slow the raw velocity numbers were, but I can't believe it was that slow. Blame basically ran the same race as the Foster where he closed into a slow pace to wear down a loose leader. I figured the number would be closer to 103 which would pair Blame up with the Foster and pair QR up with the Hal's Hope. I don't buy that today was 5 lengths better.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:31 PM
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Someone should put a suicide watch at paceadvantage, in particular the owner.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile. Not bad.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:43 PM
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He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile is pretty cool.
Come on, Travis. He's a PLUG.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:46 PM
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Come on, Travis. He's a PLUG.
Who isn't a plug in the game today though?
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:46 PM
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He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile. Not bad.
Completely agree.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:49 PM
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Maybe QR needs to take a break and wait for the BCC.

Why can't horse races run more than 6 times a year?
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.
Admit it, you love me.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Admit it, you love me.

I have said that exact same thing to you many times before....
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:39 PM
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Those fractions with that trip there is no reason QR should lose. He's off form or not right or more or a less a miler with an amazing track affinity for GP which allows him to run longer....Don't get me wrong his Gold Cup was good, but he gives me serious pause going longer than a mile.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:44 PM
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Those fractions with that trip there is no reason QR should lose. He's off form or not right or more or a less a miler with an amazing track affinity for GP which allows him to run longer....Don't get me wrong his Gold Cup was good, but he gives me serious pause going longer than a mile.
When Blame drew alongside Quality Road he did dig in, which counts for something. I don't think he's a router, but more a miler like you said. ntamm1215 said to me something I think is probably spot-on in that they should just let him use his raw speed and not get cute up top... it's almost as if rating him mutes his ability a bit.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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Admit it, you love me.
What's comical about the whole thing is that TOM, just about the biggest DOOFUS on the web, actually gets it when it comes to Z and QR and you, CJ, Mike the EUNUCH, and the rest, don't. Hell, even the trip challenged Classhandicapper gets it.

But you all put a lot of effort into it, nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:13 PM
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What's comical about the whole thing is that TOM, just about the biggest DOOFUS on the web, actually gets it when it comes to Z and QR and you, CJ, Mike the EUNUCH, and the rest, don't. Hell, even the trip challenged Classhandicapper gets it.

But you all put a lot of effort into it, nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I've been real involved in all of the discussions lately.

What's really comical is how fixated you are with what goes on there. Why not just put your tail between your legs, AGAIN, and beg to come back? That way you can take your shots there instead of hiding here (like Zenyatta).
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:25 PM
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Yeah, I've been real involved in all of the discussions lately.

What's really comical is how fixated you are with what goes on there. Why not just put your tail between your legs, AGAIN, and beg to come back? That way you can take your shots there instead of hiding here (like Zenyatta).
Funny. When I glanced at the Whitney thread earlier tonight, you were in the middle of it, defending QR and bashing Z (like you usually do).

Fixated? Hardly. There are basically TWO racing related forums online. In between betting, I read some of the posts there and here. As I work out of my house and spend a good portion of the day online, I also frequent a few other forums/sites. This is hardly unusual.

The problem with Mike the Eunuch is that he doesn't play fair. He runs the forum and when things don't go his way, he bans people. His handicapping sucks and so does his opinion. Before he banned me the last time, I sent him a steady stream of PMs with BOMBS I'd posted at other sites. He really got a kick out of that.

As for my return there last year (or whenever), CJ suggested it. This is hardly the scenario you feel the need to depict. Of course, I could create another ID and post under it, like you were doing here for a while until DrugS busted you. ha ha ha

Anything else we need to clear up?

You didn't really pick ICE BOX for the Haskel, did you?

you keep me laughing.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:35 PM
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Funny. When I glanced at the Whitney thread earlier tonight, you were in the middle of it, defending QR and bashing Z (like you usually do).

Fixated? Hardly. There are basically TWO racing related forums online. In between betting, I read some of the posts there and here. As I work out of my house and spend a good portion of the day online, I also frequent a few other forums/sites. This is hardly unusual.

The problem with Mike the Eunuch is that he doesn't play fair. He runs the forum and when things don't go his way, he bans people. His handicapping sucks and so does his opinion. Before he banned me the last time, I sent him a steady stream of PMs with BOMBS I'd posted at other sites. He really got a kick out of that.

As for my return there last year (or whenever), CJ suggested it. This is hardly the scenario you feel the need to depict. Of course, I could create another ID and post under it, like you were doing here for a while until DrugS busted you. ha ha ha

Anything else we need to clear up?

You didn't really pick ICE BOX for the Haskel, did you?

you keep me laughing.
That isn't the scenario at all and we both know it. Why you are lying about it is beyond me, but quite funny. The fact you feel the need to make up a long drawn out explanation is hilarious.

The Ice Box stuff is funny. Have you seen what I've done the last two days? Should I detail all of the losers you've put out? Is there enough bandwith here?

You keep me laughing. You might get me one day. Maybe. Pretty big FAIL so far though.
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