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Old 08-05-2010, 02:05 PM
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Definitely not "unrestricted" as I don't believe Zenyatta's gentlemen callers are allowed to participate in the Hirsch.
um.. okay.. obviously unrestricted was the wrong term.. Any FILLY OR MARE 3yo or up could enter..
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:07 PM
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Ummm....because no one wants to run on synthetic in California unless it's the Breeders Cup?
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:31 PM
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Almost all of the best Eastern dirt horses who went out there for the two Breeders Cup races struggled with it... most of them ran too bad to be true.

But look at a race like the Pacific Classic.

* 2009: A deep closing router with a turf sire - Richard's Kid .. took forever to get through his conditions racing on the dirt at LRL and Philly Park - he goes out there and wins the Pacific Classic.

* 2008: Go Between ... an Eastern turf horse from a stictly European female family - he made his first dozen or so starts in the East. He goes out and wins the Pacific Classic.

* 2007: Student Council ... an Eastern based horse sired by Kingmambo who made his first 20 or so starts in the East goes out there and wins the Pacific Classic.

All 3 Pacific Classics on synthetic have been won by slowpoke Eastern horses with turf pedigrees.... but those aren't the kind of Eastern horses that get any respect. The dirt horses that go out to Cal and bomb are the ones who get the respect.

Horses like Richard's Kid, Student Council, and Go Between would have been murdered by So. Cal dirt horses if they shipped out to try the Pac Classic before Poly was put in.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:41 PM
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Ummm....because no one wants to run on synthetic in California unless it's the Breeders Cup?
I just find this argument a little shallow, when it was on dirt I cant recall a shipper the last decade.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:46 PM
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Ecton Park, Perfect Drift, Medagla D' Oro.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:47 PM
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I just find this argument a little shallow, when it was on dirt I cant recall a shipper the last decade.
What about Good Reward (06), Perfect Drift (04-05), Colonial Colony (04), Medaglia d'Oro (03), and Bonus Pack (02)?

They were all eastern-based at the time they ran in the Pacific Classic pre-synthetic.

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Old 08-05-2010, 02:59 PM
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What about Good Reward (06), Perfect Drift (04-05), Colonial Colony (04), Medaglia d'Oro (03), and Bonus Pack (02)?

They were all eastern-based at the time they ran in the Pacific Classic pre-synthetic.

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the clement hirsch, wow who knew....no one ships out west for THIS race so the fact no one did this year supports nothing.
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:02 PM
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the clement hirsch, wow who knew....no one ships out west for THIS race so the fact no one did this year supports nothing.
Guess again.

The immortal Rinterval shipped out West for the race.

It was just last year when I watched her get smoked at PID.
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:06 PM
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Guess again.

The immortal Rinterval shipped out West for the race.

It was just last year when I watched her get smoked at PID.
dont remember her, was she any good?
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:08 PM
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the clement hirsch, wow who knew....no one ships out west for THIS race so the fact no one did this year supports nothing.
Oh, so you were referring to the Hirsch, a race which included an eastern shipper as the 2nd place finisher in its last running on conventional dirt!

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Old 08-05-2010, 02:49 PM
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Waiting for the 10 pt. argument redirection in 3, 2, 1...
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:54 PM
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