Rachel Alexandra a go for La Troienne

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

That's the problem I have with both sides. That is debatable.

Both are in the top 5-10 of my lifetime. That's good enough for me in terms of all time greats... your requirements to reach that level might be more stringent.

Originally Posted by philcski

Both are in the top 5-10 of my lifetime. That's good enough for me in terms of all time greats... your requirements to reach that level might be more stringent.

I'm talking about the history of the sport both male and female and assumed that's what he was talking about as well.

To me, Zenyatta is about 20 notches above Pepper's Pride. She'll have to run the table again this year and at least have 4 more races on dirt before I crown her an all-time great.

Synthetic surfaces are clown shoes. It may be exciting racing to most people but to me it's boring.

Rachel is only 4. She needs another year as well. Solid 3-year old campaign but I'll hold off on crowning her ass as well.

[DaTruth]

Shirreffs expresses his hesitation about Zenyatta crossing the Rockies again anytime soon, and the Zealots largely remain silent. Not a peep from the usual suspects. However, when a thread is started about Rachel running on Friday, the Zealots awaken and quickly turn the thread into a Rachel-bashing party. Can someone please explain to these people that Zenyatta's accomplishments will stand on their own merits, and their efforts to marginalize Rachel's accomplishments only make them appear even more foolish.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Shirreffs expresses his hesitation about Zenyatta crossing the Rockies again anytime soon, and the Zealots largely remain silent. Not a peep from the usual suspects. However, when a thread is started about Rachel running on Friday, the Zealots awaken and quickly turn the thread into a Rachel-bashing party. Can someone please explain to these people that Zenyatta's accomplishments will stand on their own merits, and their efforts to marginalize Rachel's accomplishments only make them appear even more foolish.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm talking about the history of the sport both male and female and assumed that's what he was talking about as well.

To me, Zenyatta is about 20 notches above Pepper's Pride. She'll have to run the table again this year and at least have 4 more races on dirt before I crown her an all-time great.

Synthetic surfaces are clown shoes. It may be exciting racing to most people but to me it's boring.

Rachel is only 4. She needs another year as well. Solid 3-year old campaign but I'll hold off on crowning her ass as well.

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Shirreffs expresses his hesitation about Zenyatta crossing the Rockies again anytime soon, and the Zealots largely remain silent. Not a peep from the usual suspects. However, when a thread is started about Rachel running on Friday, the Zealots awaken and quickly turn the thread into a Rachel-bashing party. Can someone please explain to these people that Zenyatta's accomplishments will stand on their own merits, and their efforts to marginalize Rachel's accomplishments only make them appear even more foolish.

Great posts.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Shirreffs expresses his hesitation about Zenyatta crossing the Rockies again anytime soon, and the Zealots largely remain silent. Not a peep from the usual suspects. However, when a thread is started about Rachel running on Friday, the Zealots awaken and quickly turn the thread into a Rachel-bashing party. Can someone please explain to these people that Zenyatta's accomplishments will stand on their own merits, and their efforts to marginalize Rachel's accomplishments only make them appear even more foolish.

Saying Rachel is very good horse, but not necessarily a great one is termed bashing? As is believing Zenyatta is the superior horse regardless of the critaria one wants to use considered bashing? Explain to me how have the so called zealots bashed Rachel in this thread?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

Both are in the top 5-10 of my lifetime. That's good enough for me in terms of all time greats... your requirements to reach that level might be more stringent.

really? i think they're both good, but i can think of many in my lifetime that i hold in higher esteem. but maybe i'm just a lot older than you?!