Woodard Double Positive

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At face value they are

Why anyone would choose to be there is a mystery to me.

That's what I'm wondering...what is the draw for guys like that to race there. I understand the people who have been there for years but these other guys...I don't get it. Do you think it is just to get some numbers in the win column?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

That's what I'm wondering...what is the draw for guys like that to race there. I understand the people who have been there for years but these other guys...I don't get it. Do you think it is just to get some numbers in the win column?

I horse costs 2k a month at least to keep in training...win a 4k purse and live another month

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I horse costs 2k a month at least to keep in training...win a 4k purse and live another month

But wouldn't it be more profitable to package a couple of those horses up for a couple thousand dollars and just sell them to one of the Beulah based trainers? Maybe they just want a win picture?

[Sightseek]

In re: O' Neil

Has Reddham stopped buying horses all together?

[tiggerv]

Look at the 3rd race from Beulah today where O'Neil had the winner. I can't believe the O'Neil horse paid $3.80 against that field.

Trainer of the 2 is 1/38 at BEU
Trainer of the 3 is 1/35 at BEU
Trainer of the 4 is 1/19 at BEU
Trainer of the 5 is 4/125 at BEU

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Look at the 3rd race from Beulah today where O'Neil had the winner. I can't believe the O'Neil horse paid $3.80 against that field.

Trainer of the 2 is 1/38 at BEU
Trainer of the 3 is 1/35 at BEU
Trainer of the 4 is 1/19 at BEU
Trainer of the 5 is 4/125 at BEU

And the horse was life and death

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

But wouldn't it be more profitable to package a couple of those horses up for a couple thousand dollars and just sell them to one of the Beulah based trainers? Maybe they just want a win picture?

I think they just want to boost the win%. Same thing Clement does every summer at Suffolk except Suffolk is like Keeneland compared to Beulah

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think they just want to boost the win%. Same thing Clement does every summer at Suffolk except Suffolk is like Keeneland compared to Beulah

I guess the overall high win % makes it look good to potential clients down the line. Still seems odd for a guy who has won Gr 1's and big races to run horses at a place like Beulah.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I guess the overall high win % makes it look good to potential clients down the line. Still seems odd for a guy who has won Gr 1's and big races to run horses at a place like Beulah.

That is what I thought was interesting about it.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is what I thought was interesting about it.

I wonder if guys like Baffert, Mitchell, Mullins or Canani mess with him and congratulate him on stuff like the nice MSW winner at Beulah the other day?

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think they just want to boost the win%. Same thing Clement does every summer at Suffolk except Suffolk is like Keeneland compared to Beulah

Just saw where Jack Van Berg is sending a string to Thistledowns. Maybe Mullins will be at River Downs .

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

That's what I'm wondering...what is the draw for guys like that to race there. I understand the people who have been there for years but these other guys...I don't get it. Do you think it is just to get some numbers in the win column?

I dont know why else O neill would do it. Seems like he owns most of the horses as well.

[chucklestheclown]

Ahhh...the trickle-down effect.