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Old 03-16-2010, 06:42 PM
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Name one living that has more skill than him?

That's right ... you can't ... because there isn't anyone.

The guy has started almost 1,700 horses since '96 and shows a flat bet profit.

He won at a 40% clip for the entire year of 1999 - on what was easily the single toughest circuit year round circuit at the time - Southern California.

He won a Kentucky Derby with Giacomo - and a BC Distaff and BC Classic the same year with two females ... but none of any of that really matters.

What matters is what he did with first time starters in the late 90's when he trained for 505. The guy had very few babies .. and almost everyone of them ran mind-boggling in their debut.

He won at better than 50% with first-time-starters over a 3 years stretch from '98 through '00 (15-for-29) ... many of his debut winners paid generous mutuals .. and several of them won their debuts with triple digit Beyer figures. More than one of his took their debut with a 110 Beyer.

David Copperfield was 7/2 and outgamed future KY Derby winner Fusaichi Pegasus in his debut winning with a mid 90's Beyer. What was he ... like only the 12th most impressive of his 29 debut runners over that span?

The guy consistantly got seriously good young horses to run lifetime best races off of nothing but workouts. I'm talking Graded Stakes caliber performances. Cliquot lost his debut by a nose to General Challenge at like 5/1. Swept Overboard got nipped by Here's Zealous and ran a 100 beyer in defeat in his debut. It very easily could have been 17-for-29 instead of 15-for-29 with four 2nds.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:52 PM
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BAFFERT
You make a compelling case.
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:02 PM
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You make a compelling case.

Drugs is about to do it for me....
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:07 PM
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Drugs is about to do it for me....
Baffert's Misremembered did just barely hold off Shireff's 7yo Neko Bay in the Big Cap a few weeks ago.

I guess that settles it.
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