Jerry Brown's letter to TDN on HOY discussion

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Perhaps. Or perhaps it reinforces the notion that the older horses Rachel beat in the woodward were garbage.

Possibly. I certainly wouldn't try to compare them to Awesome Gem or Colonel John.

You know, the good older horses.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Possibly. I certainly wouldn't try to compare them to Awesome Gem or Colonel John.

You know, the good older horses.

LOL. Touche.

She certainly didnt beat anything on the level of Einstein. Is that fair to say?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. Touche.

She certainly didnt beat anything on the level of Einstein. Is that fair to say?

Not if you just watched a replay of the Stephen Foster.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. Touche.

She certainly didnt beat anything on the level of Einstein. Is that fair to say?

Arguably neither did Zenyatta, given what Einstein turned in BC day. Macho Again and Bullsbay were probably in their top form for the Woodward. At least part of the facing solid older males, whatever the gender of the 3yo, is dealing with the mental pressure. I'm not altogether sure RA didn't realize these were tough experienced horses and that she decided to handle them anyway. I hate implying Z wouldn't have beaten them in the same form that RA did, because both of them had the ability. RA fought past an obstacle that Z didn't the opportunity to match, not really Z's fault.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Arguably neither did Zenyatta, given what Einstein turned in BC day. Macho Again and Bullsbay were probably in their top form for the Woodward. At least part of the facing solid older males, whatever the gender of the 3yo, is dealing with the mental pressure. I'm not altogether sure RA didn't realize these were tough experienced horses and that she decided to handle them anyway. I hate implying Z wouldn't have beaten them in the same form that RA did, because both of them had the ability. RA fought past an obstacle that Z didn't the opportunity to match, not really Z's fault.

I actually think Gio Ponte is a quality horse on either surface, and ran his race.