Rampillion!!!!!!

[phystech]

Freddy, everything has to start somewhere and it usually takes one person to start things.

With that in mind, I think you ought to put your foot down and not run your horses for purses supported by slots money. You have a very valid point about the horses at Delpark on Tues - even though I think you picked the wrong thread to voice your opinion - but to rail against those horses, and then turn around and to do the same thing with your horse would make you...... oh, what's the word I'm looking for.......um,..... a hypocrite!!!!

Start the movement Freddy!! Set the example!! Don't run that $6k pig you've got in the barn for slots-fueled purse money. Show the tracks you simply won't stoop to the level of cashing the winner's share of a $44k purse. Be the one that stands up for what you think is right and find that $8k purse that's unsupported by slots money. A real man acts - a weak one follows the flock.

I know you'll do what is right!!!!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by phystech

Freddy, everything has to start somewhere and it usually takes one person to start things.

With that in mind, I think you ought to put your foot down and not run your horses for purses supported by slots money. You have a very valid point about the horses at Delpark on Tues - even though I think you picked the wrong thread to voice your opinion - but to rail against those horses, and then turn around and to do the same thing with your horse would make you...... oh, what's the word I'm looking for.......um,..... a hypocrite!!!!

Start the movement Freddy!! Set the example!! Don't run that $6k pig you've got in the barn for slots-fueled purse money. Show the tracks you simply won't stoop to the level of cashing the winner's share of a $44k purse. Be the one that stands up for what you think is right and find that $8k purse that's unsupported by slots money. A real man acts - a weak one follows the flock.

I know you'll do what is right!!!!

I have no problem racing the filly at PID. Never repped I wouldn't or that I wouldn't cash the check the minute it was given to me(can't wait for that slot money). As for being a hypocrite I guess you can choose to call me one. I never had issue with the exploitation of the money, what sane person wouldn't grab low hanging fruit. I had issue with the advent of racing electing to covet slots vs. consolidation and a more comprehensive long term plan. Trust me in a few years will have to go to another NEW SLOT location as PID will be a ghost town for people and horses..

Of course I made good points about what is wrong with racing. And again I never had issue with "the pill" running at Delaware and was most happy she won in such fine form. I never was disrespectfully to the stable or there decision to run or more importantly the fine effort "the pill" gave of herself.

[phystech]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I had issue with the advent of racing electing to covet slots vs. consolidation and a more comprehensive long term plan. Trust me in a few years will have to go to another NEW SLOT location as PID will be a ghost town for people and horses..

Ah, but see, you are part of the problem Freddy. You are going to support a track that you criticize for coveting slots when you run your horse there. You give them reason to race because they can suck you in to run in their races and support their product. I just can't believe that someone who is so outspoken about the current business model some of these racinos are employing would turn around and support them by racing your horse there.

Your horse needs to run at River Downs. Support a track that probably NEEDS your horse to make a race go so that they can card enough races to give them a chance to earn the money they need to fund purses and survive.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by phystech

Ah, but see, you are part of the problem Freddy. You are going to support a track that you criticize for coveting slots when you run your horse there. You give them reason to race because they can suck you in to run in their races and support their product. I just can't believe that someone who is so outspoken about the current business model some of these racinos are employing would turn around and support them by racing your horse there.

Your horse needs to run at River Downs. Support a track that probably NEEDS your horse to make a race go so that they can card enough races to give them a chance to earn the money they need to fund purses and survive.

Everything you say is fair..I hope I never have to race at River Downs. I think racing there and taking full advantage of the insanity doesn't mitigate that slots aren't the answer and shouldn't be looked at as the foundation that racing needs to grow upon. I am hoping to steal as much money as I can with a filly or two that simply will be rewarded for there birth place and not their ability.. Plus Handle the important variant in racing will not be advanced in anyway shape or form from PID, especially considering the purse involved.

[phystech]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Everything you say is fair..I hope I never have to race at River Downs. I think racing there and taking full advantage of the insanity doesn't mitigate that slots aren't the answer and shouldn't be looked at as the foundation that racing needs to grow upon. I am hoping to steal as much money as I can with a filly or two that simply will be rewarded for there birth place and not their ability.. Plus Handle the important variant in racing will not be advanced in anyway shape or form from PID, especially considering the purse involved.

For me, and I'm a Mid-Atlantic guy, the whole thing started with Delpark and Charles Town getting slots. It wasn't as much a racing thing as it was a state racetrack thing. MD was kicking Delpark's and CT's ass. Those two tracks couldn't compete and were virtually on death's door. If not for their state's legislators deciding that racing, breeding, etc were important enough to their state economy, racing would not exist at Delpark and CT.

But when their gov't became involved, it unleveled the playing field. We, in MD, lost horsemen, horses and jocks (Dominguez, Pino, etc) to Delpark and others to CT.

As things worsened in MD, I began relying on the insane purses at CT and Delpark to keep my partnerships solvent. Was the business model CT employed where I could run my $5k claimer for $23k purse a wonderful thing? No, it was stupid. But 2 wins at CT in the summer made enough money for my group to ensure that we could survive the rest of the year.

We had the opportunity to vote for/against slots in MD this past Nov. Understand that as much as I hate slots, the fact was that in order to compete, MD has to have the same business tools that CT and Delpark, and now Philly/PennNat have. And, currently, KY needs the same as Indiana has. While it seems pretty pathetic to even mention Indiana racing in the same breath as KY racing, the reality is KY needs to level the playing field that slots will allow.

In a perfect racing world, slots would not be part of any track's equation. The upset of the apple cart, in the Mid-Atlantic, was when the lesser tracks received the golden goose of slots.

It appears to me that, in your racing Utopia, there'd only be stakes races. But the reality is no one wants to run two races a day, twice a week. As the good Dr. pointed out, without the benefit of a timer or designation of a class level, most of us wouldn't know the difference between 4 horses in a
$5k claimer spread across the track at the wire running 6f in 1:13 vs. 4 spread running in a Grade II going 6f in 1:09. It's all about the competition no matter the level and whether you've got the horse to win at that level.

[blackthroatedwind]

Freddy is apparently an idiotic savant......and this may be the one thing he gets.