5/2 (CD): Kentucky Derby (G1)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Hold Me Back's backstretch move was a Derby winning move... a few furlongs early.

Isn't that what he did in the Remsen?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Isn't that what he did in the Remsen?

i posted the other day that mott didn't like him on dirt, and pointed to his remsen as the reason why....people still picked him.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i posted the other day that mott didn't like him on dirt, and pointed to his remsen as the reason why....people still picked him.

What?! The Remsen was an okay effort all things considered. And for a horse who didn't like the dirt, he certainly picked off plenty of horses going down the backstretch with no problem.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What?! The Remsen was an okay effort all things considered. And for a horse who didn't like the dirt, he certainly picked off plenty of horses going down the backstretch with no problem.

then take it up with mott, who said after hold me backs first start this year that he wanted to keep him on syns, that he didn't want to put him back on dirt. that he 'didn't have a straw in his path' in the remsen where he ran sixth and felt the horse didn't like dirt. it's in bloodhorse, look it up. i posted what mott said as a warning to those picking him for today. if the trainer doesn't like him on natural, why would anyone else?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Danzig

then take it up with mott, who said after hold me backs first start this year that he wanted to keep him on syns, that he didn't want to put him back on dirt. that he 'didn't have a straw in his path' in the remsen where he ran sixth and felt the horse didn't like dirt. it's in bloodhorse, look it up. i posted what mott said as a warning to those picking him for today. if the trainer doesn't like him on natural, why would anyone else?

I just sent him a PM. Hopefully he responds and I'll let you know what he says.

The chart does a good job of describing his performance... "make a good long run along the inside down the backside."

If they time that move better, he'll win some races.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I just sent him a PM. Hopefully he responds and I'll let you know what he says.

The chart does a good job of describing his performance... "make a good long run along the inside down the backside."

If they time that move better, he'll win some races.

he already has won some. i think he should go back to where he has the most success. obviously the good three year olds will try the derby, which is what they did with hold me back. but i think his future successes are on where he's had all his success-and that's not on dirt.

and you sent bill mott a pm??

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Isn't that what he did in the Remsen?

Fair point, and true. He did middle move a bit there... but today's was more pronounced in my opinion. The inside run down the backstretch never seems to work in the Derby.