Current Derby Field

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I think Desert Party has a shot in the derby. But to cite the fact that he and Regal Ransom beat "older horses" in the UAE Derby seems a little absurd.

Seriously? Southern Hemisphere 3YO have romped in Dubai the last few years, including Asiatic Boy, Honour Devil, Royal Vintage, etc. They took a handful of chances throughout the campaign...but Desert Party and Regal Ransom handled them well throughout three races.

Granted, they were lightly raced (but everyone is) - but the age and maturity factor plays a role. I just don't think there is anything absurd about that particular fact.

[tector]

In a year when the US contingent is better than it has been in years, people are seriously considering the towelhead horses? NOW?

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by tector

In a year when the US contingent is better than it has been in years, people are seriously considering the towelhead horses? NOW?

Please feel free to not consider them. I'll be happy with a higher price.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by tector

In a year when the US contingent is better than it has been in years, people are seriously considering the towelhead horses? NOW?

I hope that's your head the gun is pointing at

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by tector

In a year when the US contingent is better than it has been in years, people are seriously considering the towelhead horses? NOW?

Wow, some post. Are you related to Grits?

Good luck to His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum. Not sure if this will be the year (I like both Godolphin horses along with IWR, Musket Man and General Quarters) but I agree with Pat... they both have a shot.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tector

In a year when the US contingent is better than it has been in years, people are seriously considering the towelhead horses? NOW?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

All you people should go easy on Tector. He's a wop too, just like Druggie.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

All you people should go easy on Tector. He's a wop too, just like Druggie.

Me too!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Me too!

Me too.

Yagotaproblemwitthat?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by philcski

Me too.

Yagotaproblemwitthat?

fuhgettaboutit, paisan. LOL...

[tector]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

All you people should go easy on Tector. He's a wop too, just like Druggie.

Don't worry, when the Dubai wonders run up the track, I intend to abuse these people unmercifully.

I have no problem with anyone taking a 30-1 flyer on any horse. But making them key horses--please. Since when does ANYONE make a key horse, at a relatively low price, out of a horse trying to overcome a historical 0-fer? If these horses had accomplished something truly spectacular on the way here, OK, I'd listen. But I've seen nothing of the kind.

And since when do I have to be polite about people who served the same role for murderous Middle Eastern fanatics that the Swiss served for the Nazis? Just as the Nazis allowed the Swiss to survive and prosper, so have the maniacs and autocrats of the Middle East allowed the UAE to do the same--because it serves their larger purposes.

Are people here that frigging naive? The Sheik had the "genius" to be born with an ocean of oil under his ass. Wow, I am impressed.

Sycophants to power and money are everywhere, I guess.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

Don't worry, when the Dubai wonders run up the track, I intend to abuse these people unmercifully.

I have no problem with anyone taking a 30-1 flyer on any horse. But making them key horses--please. Since when does ANYONE make a key horse, at a relatively low price, out of a horse trying to overcome a historical 0-fer? If these horses had accomplished something truly spectacular on the way here, OK, I'd listen. But I've seen nothing of the kind.

And since when do I have to be polite about people who served the same role for murderous Middle Eastern fanatics that the Swiss served for the Nazis? Just as the Nazis allowed the Swiss to survive and prosper, so have the maniacs and autocrats of the Middle East allowed the UAE to do the same--because it serves their larger purposes.

Are people here that frigging naive? The Sheik had the "genius" to be born with an ocean of oil under his ass. Wow, I am impressed.

Sycophants to power and money are everywhere, I guess.

That's more like it!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by tector

And since when do I have to be polite about people who served the same role for murderous Middle Eastern fanatics that the <strike>Swiss</strike> Bush family served for the Nazis?

FTFY

EDIT: Stupid HTML fail...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tector

Don't worry, when the Dubai wonders run up the track, I intend to abuse these people unmercifully.

I have no problem with anyone taking a 30-1 flyer on any horse. But making them key horses--please. Since when does ANYONE make a key horse, at a relatively low price, out of a horse trying to overcome a historical 0-fer? If these horses had accomplished something truly spectacular on the way here, OK, I'd listen. But I've seen nothing of the kind.

And since when do I have to be polite about people who served the same role for murderous Middle Eastern fanatics that the Swiss served for the Nazis? Just as the Nazis allowed the Swiss to survive and prosper, so have the maniacs and autocrats of the Middle East allowed the UAE to do the same--because it serves their larger purposes.

Are people here that frigging naive? The Sheik had the "genius" to be born with an ocean of oil under his ass. Wow, I am impressed.

Sycophants to power and money are everywhere, I guess.

lol
i take issue with a racial slur, so i'm a sycophant? i'm no fan of the middle east powers that be, but i'm not going to call them rag/towel heads either.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by tector

And since when do I have to be polite about people who served the same role for murderous Middle Eastern fanatics that the Swiss served for the Nazis? Just as the Nazis allowed the Swiss to survive and prosper, so have the maniacs and autocrats of the Middle East allowed the UAE to do the same--because it serves their larger purposes.

What? I did not see your derby pick here. Do you have one? Or are you just a sniffleing coward too?
I think I Want Revenge will win.

[tector]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

What? I did not see your derby pick here. Do you have one? Or are you just a sniffleing coward too?
I think I Want Revenge will win.

He is the most likely winner, especially with QR's issues. Whether he will provide any value is doubtful, but you can create some underneath in this race.

If racing has taught me anything of late, it is: don't try to beat the most accomplished cheaters.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Seriously? Southern Hemisphere 3YO have romped in Dubai the last few years, including Asiatic Boy, Honour Devil, Royal Vintage, etc. They took a handful of chances throughout the campaign...but Desert Party and Regal Ransom handled them well throughout three races.

Granted, they were lightly raced (but everyone is) - but the age and maturity factor plays a role. I just don't think there is anything absurd about that particular fact.

It's absurd because the SH 3yos they beat aren't any good. . .

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

It's absurd because the SH 3yos they beat aren't any good. . .

And the superstars I Want Revenge has beaten in two wins in NY were good?

It's really risky to base Derby selections on quality of competition unless you really think you have a handle on everyone in the crop.

NT

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's really risky to base Derby selections on quality of competition unless you really think you have a handle on everyone in the crop.

Where does it look like I'm doing that?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Where does it look like I'm doing that?

You're making statements on quality of horses beat, which is only one step above taking the horse who ran the fastest 9 furlongs of all of the preps.

There are plenty of reasons to knock Desert Party, but I don't think saying that him beating older Southern Hemisphere 3YOs is absurd is accurate at all.
Then coming back to say that he beat nothing when all we know is that we have a handful of good 3YOs in this country is risky, as I stated.

NT