Who will be the "wise guy" horse???

[King Glorious]

I'm thinking it will be Papa Clem. I think that the three main horses coming out of California (Pioneer, IWR, and Papa Clem) all had/have the dirt question to answer. IWR and PC both have answered it while Pioneer has yet to do so. Now that we know PC can run on the dirt, I think more attention is going to be put on the fact that he did finish ahead of IWR at Santa Anita. I know Old Fashioned got hurt in the running and a lot of people weren't impressed with the Arkansas Derby but for me, it was a really good effort. I could see Papa Clem dropping down to about the 7/1 or 8/1 range.

[blackthroatedwind]

The true " wise guy " opinion in this year's KY Derby is that Pioneer of the Nile is a major bet against. There really is no " wise guy horse " to bet on.

[Habersham000]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The true " wise guy " opinion in this year's KY Derby is that Pioneer of the Nile is a major bet against. There really is no " wise guy horse " to bet on.

A lot of people I work with really like Pioneer of the Nile, some of these people have talked to the farm where he was broke and trained and they said he trained very well at that time on the dirt. Although he still hasn't run a race on it with dirt flying back and hitting him in the face I think he is still a must use especially since he has beat a 1/4 of the field that will be entered in the race.

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[slotdirt]

You mean I'm the only person on the West Side Bernie bandwagon? I figured the groundswell on W.S.B. would be well on its way to "wise guy" status by now.

[philcski]

All I know is if Quality Road isn't 100%, I have no idea where I'll end up.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by philcski

All I know is if Quality Road isn't 100%, I have no idea where I'll end up.

I believe QR's second quarter crack saved you a lot of money

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Habersham000

A lot of people I work with really like Pioneer of the Nile, some of these people have talked to the farm where he was broke and trained and they said he trained very well at that time on the dirt. Although he still hasn't run a race on it with dirt flying back and hitting him in the face I think he is still a must use especially since he has beat a 1/4 of the field that will be entered in the race.

Right, they are the anti-wise guys, which just furthers my point.

Once again, there is a misconseption of what a wise guy is around here. Like it or not.....The Fat Man is the " wise guy " of this board.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Right, they are the anti-wise guys, which just furthers my point.

Once again, there is a misconseption of what a wise guy is around here. Like it or not.....The Fat Man is the " wise guy " of this board.

DrugS and I have decided to name our pending foal(Straight Man- Notorious Girl) "Trackus" in honor of the Fat Man.. The foal should be born this week we will get the transceiver implanted shortly after the foal nurses.. Fatty will know whenever the weanie nurses or dumps..

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The true " wise guy " opinion in this year's KY Derby is that Pioneer of the Nile is a major bet against. There really is no " wise guy horse " to bet on.

This isn't much of a 'wise guy' pick. Every doofus with a bone to pick with POLY is against POTN.

A true 'wise guy' pick would be taking a stand against one of the 'conventional' darlings (i.e. high speed figure horses). This year, that would be Quality Road. Too bad all that quarter crack BS is going on; and will scare some supporters away.

[freddymo]

I have no bone to pick with poly just slow horses.. POTN is slow

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I have no bone to pick with poly just slow horses.. POTN is slow

Is it a time trial?