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Old 03-04-2009, 03:50 PM
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I think the opt out thing (after a year) will hopefully keep him hungry. Honestly, I don't know why things would change that much, but we will see. I thought he was worth a 4 year deal at 20-25 mil guaranteed(but no takers.) I guess people figured that he quit on Boston(and they didn't get equal value in the trade to L.A.) So, only L.A. is willing to chance it. If he has another good year, are they gunna chance it ? What will have changed?
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:52 PM
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All the sports talk dorks are spewing their Manny being Manny B.S.

I hope he hits 80 homers and bats .350+ and shuts them up.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:58 PM
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All the sports talk dorks are spewing their Manny being Manny B.S.

I hope he hits 80 homers and bats .350+ and shuts them up.
That would be great for the Dodgers, and Scuds would be purring like a cat!
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:04 PM
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All the sports talk dorks are spewing their Manny being Manny B.S.

I hope he hits 80 homers and bats .350+ and shuts them up.

as long as they still lose to the Phillies in the playoffs I'm okay with this.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:09 PM
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as long as they still lose to the Phillies in the playoffs I'm okay with this.
BOOOOOOOO!
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That would be great for the Dodgers, and Scuds would be purring like a cat!
I'm thrilled. He has enough friends (Kemp, Furcal etc.) on the team to (hopefully) keep him from quiting on us. Don't think we are gunna get to the World Series with the same 2 chokers taking up important spots on the pitching staff. You just can't expect different results when you try to use the same 2 women to try to get men out in the post.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:12 PM
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Maybe Schmidt will come back 100%....it could happen!
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:22 PM
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as long as they still lose to the Phillies in the playoffs I'm okay with this.
They will struggle in the post if they try to use Billingsley/Broxton to do jobs men should be trying to do. They can only be used if the Blue is considered a longshot to win a series. Otherwise, they will lay down. Hope(alone) is an immature emotion.
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Ahhh...Spring must be in the air cause Scuds is already calling Billingsley and Broxton women!
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Ahhh...Spring must be in the air cause Scuds is already calling Billingsley and Broxton women!
Isn't that what you saw in the NLCS? Twice Billingsley took away any chance to win the game. Then, a guy who can throw almost 100 mph, came in and threw a pitch pretty slow, and down the middle(to a mistake hitter.) Call me crazy, but we are gunna struggle to get rings with those 2.
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as long as they still lose to the Phillies in the playoffs I'm okay with this.
That ain't going to happen again. Lets call it like history will remember it "Flash in the Pan".
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:28 PM
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Maybe Schmidt will come back 100%....it could happen!
Come back to get his pay check and dont even think the Dodgers are going to do much with a .500 ball club. The Dodgers just dont have the pitching to do well this year.
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Isn't that what you saw in the NLCS? Twice Billingsley took away any chance to win the game. Then, a guy who can throw almost 100 mph, came in and threw a pitch pretty slow, and down the middle(to a mistake hitter.) Call me crazy, but we are gunna struggle to get rings with those 2.
I do think that their downfall this year will be pitching or lack there of. I think Billingsley has tremendous potential, but I'm not sure if he's ready to be the rock of that rotation. As far as last year goes, don't forget that it was his first full season as a starter. It's very possible that he just hit the wall towards the end. As far as Broxton goes, I think of him as I think of Kyle Farnsworth. I ask myself, how does a guy who can throw 100 mph suck so badly? It's just mind boggling.
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Wow

"But when Boras called McCourt on Monday night, the owner merely suggested they meet the next day for breakfast.

And when they did, at a restaurant in Beverly Hills, and Boras reiterated a desire to end the madness, it's notable that the owner didn't immediately say, "Great. Sign here." Instead, according to sources, McCourt told Boras he wanted more than Manny's signature.

He wanted a commitment.

A commitment to the Dodgers' culture. A commitment to the Dodgers' fans. A commitment to the Dodgers' community. And he wanted Manny to back up that commitment with a $1 million contribution to the Dodgers Dream Foundation, a fund established by McCourt and his wife, Jamie, to build baseball fields throughout the Los Angeles area.

McCourt also made it clear the Dodgers didn't want a guy who believed he could just show up for a few hours every day and play baseball. They wanted him to commit to being "a full-fledged Dodger."

That meant being a leader. It meant setting an example for younger players. It meant interacting with fans, making appearances, being more than merely a guy who swung the bat four times a night.

Boras listened to all this and told McCourt, "You need to say this to Manny." LOL

He then placed a call to Ramirez, and that led the star of this show to bolt for the airport Tuesday afternoon for a flight to L.A. He would be there to take his physical. But first, and more important, he would be there to meet with the three men who had to sign off on the largest salary in Dodgers history -- McCourt, GM Ned Colletti and manager Joe Torre.

That meeting took place Wednesday at McCourt's beachfront house in Malibu, before the sun had even risen. By 6 a.m., McCourt, Colletti and Torre had already welcomed Boras, Ramirez and Boras' aide, Mike Fiore.

The Dodgers laid out their vision of those commitments they wanted from Manny. But they also laid out what they viewed as their commitment to him.

Their vision was a man who would become, essentially, the centerpiece of their franchise. They talked about the charisma he had exuded during the summer that energized their team and the people who followed it. They talked about the leadership he'd brought to their clubhouse.

They talked about the championships they hoped he would lead them to and the impact they thought he could make on kids throughout their community, just by appearing at the opening of the DreamFields he would help them build and by encouraging kids to follow their own dreams.

But that wasn't all.

They also talked about the shenanigans Ramirez had pulled in Boston before he ever reached L.A. They talked about the damage he had done to his image. And they needed to know, they said, that there would be no encores of that act.

Ramirez gave his promise: no more stunts.LOL No more problems. He knew how people outside Los Angeles felt about him, he said. And this was going to be his chance to rewrite that story and fix that damaged image."
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"But when Boras called McCourt on Monday night, the owner merely suggested they meet the next day for breakfast.

And when they did, at a restaurant in Beverly Hills, and Boras reiterated a desire to end the madness, it's notable that the owner didn't immediately say, "Great. Sign here." Instead, according to sources, McCourt told Boras he wanted more than Manny's signature.

He wanted a commitment.

A commitment to the Dodgers' culture. A commitment to the Dodgers' fans. A commitment to the Dodgers' community. And he wanted Manny to back up that commitment with a $1 million contribution to the Dodgers Dream Foundation, a fund established by McCourt and his wife, Jamie, to build baseball fields throughout the Los Angeles area.

McCourt also made it clear the Dodgers didn't want a guy who believed he could just show up for a few hours every day and play baseball. They wanted him to commit to being "a full-fledged Dodger."

That meant being a leader. It meant setting an example for younger players. It meant interacting with fans, making appearances, being more than merely a guy who swung the bat four times a night.

Boras listened to all this and told McCourt, "You need to say this to Manny." LOL

He then placed a call to Ramirez, and that led the star of this show to bolt for the airport Tuesday afternoon for a flight to L.A. He would be there to take his physical. But first, and more important, he would be there to meet with the three men who had to sign off on the largest salary in Dodgers history -- McCourt, GM Ned Colletti and manager Joe Torre.

That meeting took place Wednesday at McCourt's beachfront house in Malibu, before the sun had even risen. By 6 a.m., McCourt, Colletti and Torre had already welcomed Boras, Ramirez and Boras' aide, Mike Fiore.

The Dodgers laid out their vision of those commitments they wanted from Manny. But they also laid out what they viewed as their commitment to him.

Their vision was a man who would become, essentially, the centerpiece of their franchise. They talked about the charisma he had exuded during the summer that energized their team and the people who followed it. They talked about the leadership he'd brought to their clubhouse.

They talked about the championships they hoped he would lead them to and the impact they thought he could make on kids throughout their community, just by appearing at the opening of the DreamFields he would help them build and by encouraging kids to follow their own dreams.

But that wasn't all.

They also talked about the shenanigans Ramirez had pulled in Boston before he ever reached L.A. They talked about the damage he had done to his image. And they needed to know, they said, that there would be no encores of that act.

Ramirez gave his promise: no more stunts.LOL No more problems. He knew how people outside Los Angeles felt about him, he said. And this was going to be his only last chance to sign a multi year 45 million dollar contract"
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I do think that their downfall this year will be pitching or lack there of. I think Billingsley has tremendous potential, but I'm not sure if he's ready to be the rock of that rotation. As far as last year goes, don't forget that it was his first full season as a starter. It's very possible that he just hit the wall towards the end. As far as Broxton goes, I think of him as I think of Kyle Farnsworth. I ask myself, how does a guy who can throw 100 mph suck so badly? It's just mind boggling.
No, Billingsley had great stuff against the Cubs in the 1st round(because the Dodgers weren't supposed to win.) I mean she has great stuff, but is mentally weak. I would be the 1st to look for an excuse for a player, but I have seen probably 90% of her starts. I know exactly what her problem is (fkn headcase.) She has plenty of talent. Dodgers had a very imortant game in Pittsburgh a week n' a half before the end of the season. They had to fight hard for that game, because this headcase didn't have it that day either. Fkn Pittsburgh! Then in the NLCS, she choked so badly that she couldn't protect Manny from getting thrown at (Not enough control to throw inside.) As far as Broxton goes, She loses control when She chokes. Then, She has to throw a strike, and it's almost always slow n' down the middle. She loses a lot of speed on her fastball when she is tight. She needs to just come in and throw hard heat. Don't nibble n' get behind. She is a student of throwing junk. Btch tells other pitchers when their breaking stuff needs an adjustment in mechanics. Meanwhile, she has no control when she's tight. Then, always does one of two choke options: 1) overthrows, and it goes way outside, or 2) throws it slowly down the middle. If there's trouble in the locker room, it's gunna be between Manny n' Billingsley, because Billygirl couldn't protect Manny in game 2 of the NLCS. I didn't think they would trade Broxton, because she was asked to be a closer(and she ain't mentally fit enough to do that on a regular basis.) She is a set-up pitcher. So, she was asked to do more than her mental ability allowed. Billingsley should of been traded, but she broke her ankle ice skating.
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Scuds,
Here is this years bet. Take it or not.

If Billingsley wins the Cy Young, or 20 games or is the starter in the all star game or WS MVP, you have to post a picture of yourself wearing an Andruw Jones Dodgers jersey at a game. If he doesn't I will name a horse Scuds Rules and get Joe Torre to autograph a picture of him.
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Scuds,
Here is this years bet. Take it or not.

If Billingsley wins the Cy Young, or 20 games or is the starter in the all star game or WS MVP, you have to post a picture of yourself wearing an Andruw Jones Dodgers jersey at a game. If he doesn't I will name a horse Scuds Rules and get Joe Torre to autograph a picture of him.
...Tempting!
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