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Danzig · #1 03-02-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

Since I've already decided that POTN is a turf horse and that The Pamplemousse will run well on dirt, the question about the FOY runners stretching out is more important.

i wonder if the pamplemousse thinks he'll run well on dirt. seriously, you can't know til he tries. til then, it's a mental exercise with no real answer.

justindew · #2 03-02-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if the pamplemousse thinks he'll run well on dirt. seriously, you can't know til he tries. til then, it's a mental exercise with no real answer.

No, he'll run on dirt.

It is so ordered.

Danzig · #3 03-02-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

No, he'll run on dirt.

It is so ordered.

lol
hey, maybe he will.

pick4 · #4 03-02-2009, 09:23 PM

In addition to seeing the top contenders running a handful of races the horses with strong ProRide/ Polytrack/ Cushion Track add another question mark to the mix on Derby Day.

Horses have been successful moving from the So Cal tracks to dirt tracks. Of the two top So Cal contenders I prefer The Pamplemousse. He runs more like a dirt horse as he just goes to the front and runs his race. Now when he's matched up on May 3rd against a few sprinters who have no business running in the Derby yet are because they can will be be comfortable getting dirt kicked in his face while running in a pack of horses? Pioneer of The Nile runs more like a grass horse but his style could be benefitical if the pace of the Derby is insane and the race falls apart.

There are MORE than a few horses who look like they have talent in this crop and hopefully we can enjoy the preps and the banter of who is for real or not up till the Derby. I'll be at the Belmont on Stake Day regardless if a TC is on the line. I just hope Belmont day is not as hot and humid as it was last year.

sdjcom · #5 03-02-2009, 09:53 PM

It's early yet, when all the contenders start carrying 120+ lbs around 2-turns going at least 1 1/8 preps then we'll see who is serious horse for classic races. Remember you know who that really did'nt show up till Florida Derby last year ?

ateamstupid · #6 03-02-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

It's early yet, when all the contenders start carrying 120+ lbs around 2-turns going at least 1 1/8 preps then we'll see who is serious horse for classic races. Remember you know who that really did'nt show up till Florida Derby last year ?

Smooth Air?

sdjcom · #7 03-02-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Smooth Air?

maybe i got the wrong prep i'm not going to mention his name(BB)

ateamstupid · #8 03-02-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

maybe i got the wrong prep i'm not going to mention his name(BB)

I know who you meant, but saying that Big Brown didn't really show up until the Florida Derby isn't really accurate. He was definitely prominent on the Derby radar before then.

Linny · #9 03-03-2009, 08:36 AM

The off the turf allowance while impressive didn't really make everyone think Derby. He beat nothing and was still very much unproven.

ateamstupid · #10 03-04-2009, 12:43 PM

I'm no expert, but I personally think the Pamplemousse has a really ugly, turfy stride. His legs are really high and flailing about. Doesn't seem conducive to the to a 20-horse field on hard dirt.

cakes44 · #11 03-03-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Smooth Air?

Anyone with half a brain knows he was talking about Tomcito.

Pedigree Ann · #12 03-04-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4

Horses have been successful moving from the So Cal tracks to dirt tracks. Of the two top So Cal contenders I prefer The Pamplemousse. He runs more like a dirt horse as he just goes to the front and runs his race. .

Since when is this 'the way dirt horses run?' Since dirt tracks were scraped to make faster times? Or are you saying that Buckpasser, Forego, Secretariat, Vigors, et. al. weren't 'dirt horses?'