College Basketball Thread

gales0678 · #1 02-11-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

UNC is going to kill Duke tonight.

on paper i agree with you , they should

but i have watched more talented UNC teams go into that building and not win the game

UNC will go further in march in my opinion , but , i wouldn't be shocked if the home cooking got Duke a W tonight

Heels1989 · #2 02-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Tarheel win this evening with send the Duke Seniors off without a home victory against Carolina over the last 4 years. I expect Duke to be firing on all cylinders tonite. Hoping the Heels crush the dookies, but I see a close game. NC 74 - Duke 68.

ateamstupid · #3 02-11-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

on paper i agree with you , they should

but i have watched more talented UNC teams go into that building and not win the game

UNC will go further in march in my opinion , but , i wouldn't be shocked if the home cooking got Duke a W tonight

I still don't get this contention that UNC is some scary juggernaut. They have four very good players (Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington and Green) that can carry them a long way, but beyond that, they're nothing special. Duke is deeper and they actually play defense. Couple that with a home game for Duke, and I'd be stunned if UNC won comfortably.

King Glorious · #4 02-11-2009, 01:21 PM

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I still don't get this contention that UNC is some scary juggernaut. They have four very good players (Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington and Green) that can carry them a long way, but beyond that, they're nothing special. Duke is deeper and they actually play defense. Couple that with a home game for Duke, and I'd be stunned if UNC won comfortably.

I think it's because UNC has more good players than Duke. The only player on Duke's roster that impresses me is Singler. The rest of them are not worth much to me. It's not about how great UNC is, it's about how good Duke isn't. This is one of the most overated Duke teams I've ever seen.

ateamstupid · #5 02-11-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I think it's because UNC has more good players than Duke. The only player on Duke's roster that impresses me is Singler. The rest of them are not worth much to me. It's not about how great UNC is, it's about how good Duke isn't. This is one of the most overated Duke teams I've ever seen.

This is probably because you're only looking at one side of the ball. Duke isn't going to outscore other teams, so they're less visually impressive. But they play great defense, and have enough good offensive players (Gerald Henderson has been unbelievable, Singler, Scheyer, Smith/Paulus) to win.

UNC gets more pub because they run up and down the floor and score a million points. But Duke is really good.

King Glorious · #6 02-11-2009, 01:30 PM

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This is probably because you're only looking at one side of the ball. Duke isn't going to outscore other teams, so they're less visually impressive. But they play great defense, and have enough good offensive players (Gerald Henderson has been unbelievable, Singler, Scheyer, Smith/Paulus) to win.

UNC gets more pub because they run up and down the floor and score a million points. But Duke is really good.

I look at the complete game. Duke has nothing inside defensively. They get manhandled like the little boys that they are. They also have no inside scoring offense and teams that rely on the jumper like they do rarely do much. The 2001 title team was an exception but they did have Carlos Boozer inside when they had to go in there. This team has nothing.

gales0678 · #7 02-11-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I look at the complete game. Duke has nothing inside defensively. They get manhandled like the little boys that they are. They also have no inside scoring offense and teams that rely on the jumper like they do rarely do much. The 2001 title team was an exception but they did have Carlos Boozer inside when they had to go in there. This team has nothing.

this i agree with , however , the shooting at home of the 3's could keep them in the game

wake killed them inside and then took the foot of the pedal and let them almost come back in the last 5 minutes , but, duke could not stop them inside

ateamstupid · #8 02-11-2009, 01:38 PM

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I look at the complete game. Duke has nothing inside defensively. They get manhandled like the little boys that they are. They also have no inside scoring offense and teams that rely on the jumper like they do rarely do much. The 2001 title team was an exception but they did have Carlos Boozer inside when they had to go in there. This team has nothing.

And Carolina is great in the paint? Hansbrough is super, but Ed Davis and Deon Thompson are mediocre. Even soft ass Brian Zoubek will be able to stick one of them and Lance Thomas can guard the other. And with the style the Heels run, they don't utilize paint players anyway, so any advantage they have over Duke will be negligible. Their strength is in their guards. Hansbrough is icing on the cake.

If you want to say that they lack the post presence to go all the way, that's understandable, but that's a weak reason to say they'll get destroyed tonight.

King Glorious · #9 02-11-2009, 01:43 PM

Their athletes are also much better than Duke's. If I am Williams, I press Duke from the start. If Duke stays within 10, I'll be shocked.

gales0678 · #10 02-11-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I still don't get this contention that UNC is some scary juggernaut. They have four very good players (Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington and Green) that can carry them a long way, but beyond that, they're nothing special. Duke is deeper and they actually play defense. Couple that with a home game for Duke, and I'd be stunned if UNC won comfortably.

not saying they are a juggernaut , i think they are better team

duke can't match up inside with them