Nicanor

[richard burch]

are all the horses in his race first time starters?

any reason nicanor did not race as a two year old?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by richard burch

are all the horses in his race first time starters?

any reason nicanor did not race as a two year old?

About not racing as a 2yo, I imagine they had thought it possible he would based on his work pattern last summer and their talk but he started growing like a weed and Matz decided to back off and let him settle physically. An article I read later puts him at nearly 17 hands.

Not sure about the other horses in the race, I haven't looked.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by richard burch

are all the horses in his race first time starters?

Of the 13 entered 8 have had previous starts, with Dubinsky ( Pompa/Reynolds ) and Stayonit ( AE Frankel/Bello ) the 2 that have had a decent prior race.

[Cannon Shell]

The match race offer with Rampillion is still open

[King Glorious]

The "this horse is bred for" game is wonderful. Barbaro started his career on the grass and many people thought that might have been his best surface. So they start his full brother off on the dirt. Minutes later on the opposite coast, a daugther of two dirt champions (AP Indy and Sweet Catomine) starts off her career on grass.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The "this horse is bred for" game is wonderful. Barbaro started his career on the grass and many people thought that might have been his best surface. So they start his full brother off on the dirt. Minutes later on the opposite coast, a daugther of two dirt champions (AP Indy and Sweet Catomine) starts off her career on grass.

That last makes no sense. I don't get John Shirreffs at all............

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Betsy

That last makes no sense. I don't get John Shirreffs at all............

i'll give him benefit of the doubt. maybe she doesn't like the other turf--and it's either fake turf or real if you're going to run in cali.

[Bobby Fischer]

only saw the first set of pics they put out a year or two? ago, but back then Nicanor didn't look very impressive, and Lentanor looked like a "baby/toddler" version of a nice turf turfhorse. Maybe Lentanor will be an OVERlay

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'll give him benefit of the doubt. maybe she doesn't like the other turf--and it's either fake turf or real if you're going to run in cali.

theres a handful of good dirt horses who could do better out of cali

also a few tiznows you see win on the grass in various places and wonder how they would be IN cali

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'll give him benefit of the doubt. maybe she doesn't like the other turf--and it's either fake turf or real if you're going to run in cali.

True - However, Jeff Siegel said the private clockers were raving about her, and I'm sure she was working on the synthetic. I won't give up on her (naturally) - she did break slowly - but she didn't put in any kind of run. I guess we'll see next time out.

What did you think of Rail Trip? I'm in the minority on another board - I love the horse because I love Jump Start -because I just need to see waaaaaaaaay more before I proclaim this horse a star. If he were to be kept sprinting, I can see it. However, how many times have we seen horses blow out allowance fields and then get cut to ribbons when asked to make the step up? His speed scares me as well - I suspect he can't rate and, if that's the case, he will always be susceptible to another speed horse.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

While I agree it was odd to see the Shirreffs on turf, would it have been a big difference if she was on the synthetic?

Point taken.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The match race offer with Rampillion is still open

i'll take the filly...