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Old 10-26-2008, 12:33 AM
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I'd have no issue with giving it to her. Precedent has been set over and over in the past with giving Eclipse awards to horses that come over here and win one race. If Miesque can walk away with two races here and two titles, why not Goldikova? Daylami, Johannesburgh......the list goes pretty long. Hell, High Chaparral was voted the champion turf horse in 2003 and he didn't even win his BC race outright (deadheated with Johar). Singspiel never won a race in the US (won the Canadian International and ran second in the BC Turf) and still won the title. Arazi came over and won the Juvenile and not only won the title but was one of the three finalist for HOY. So why not Goldikova?
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:21 AM
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Under this thinking she would finish a distant second to Zarkava.

Surely ( though, in this case, Shirley seems more appropriate ) Justin could have returned with a more thought out post.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:25 AM
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:29 AM
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Under this thinking she would finish a distant second to Zarkava.

Surely ( though, in this case, Shirley seems more appropriate ) Justin could have returned with a more thought out post.
Except Zarkava never ran in the US. Don't horses need at least one North American start to be eligible for an Eclipse Award?
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:19 AM
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Under this thinking she would finish a distant second to Zarkava.

Surely ( though, in this case, Shirley seems more appropriate ) Justin could have returned with a more thought out post.
But Zarkava never ran in North America. The criteria for the award says that a horse has to have made at least one NA start, hence why Singspiel won it even though he never won in the U.S.
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Its a north american award, IMO its for races run in north america.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:30 AM
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Its a north american award, IMO its for races run in north america.
I'm not sure but I think that the BC Mile was run in North America yesterday. I know a lot of the rest of the country considers California to be another country but officially, it's still in the U.S.

As I just said to Danzig though, I don't necessarily disagree with your feelings but they need to change the criteria on the award then. Until then, if one start was good enough to win it for those others, it's good enough for Goldikova.
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