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Old 10-12-2008, 12:27 PM
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I wish she would run because it would very simply be,
interesting.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:29 PM
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Well another horrendous business decision by a few tracks (synthetic) have given the owners just another excuse on a list of excuses that is already the size of the U.S. tax code.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:35 PM
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Well another horrendous business decision by a few tracks (synthetic) have given the owners just another excuse on a list of excuses that is already the size of the U.S. tax code.
Dont forget that the tracks in CA were forced to install synthetics by the racing board. fast trigger fingers all around.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:58 PM
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Or is the BC concept becoming antiquated and has lost it's lustre? You would think a million dollars and more would be incentive enough, apparently not for all.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:16 PM
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Or is the BC concept becoming antiquated and has lost it's lustre? You would think a million dollars and more would be incentive enough, apparently not for all.
1 day is right 2 days is stupid..asking huge prices for tickets on fri is stupid along with inflated hotels ect..make it 1 day of championship racing .
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:24 PM
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1 day is right 2 days is stupid..asking huge prices for tickets on fri is stupid along with inflated hotels ect..make it 1 day of championship racing .
They lost me when they tinkered with the lineup up races of not leading off with the sprint. I'm also not too fond of the BC Filly Mare race, Miss Alleged, Makaybe Diva, Borgia, and more recently in the Arc remind us fillies can compete in turf races against the boys. Some races have become too watered down.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:36 PM
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They lost me when they tinkered with the lineup up races of not leading off with the sprint. I'm also not too fond of the BC Filly Mare race, Miss Alleged, Makaybe Diva, Borgia, and more recently in the Arc remind us fillies can compete in turf races against the boys. Some races have become too watered down.
Not to forget Pebbles, Indian Skimmer, Hatoof, and Estrapade. All ran very strong races in the Turf. What about Safely Kept, Meafara, Very Subtle, Honest Lady, Soviet Problem, and Pine Tree Lane....none of whom needed their own sprint race.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:16 PM
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No, they don't owe us anything. They can do what they want with their horses. Period. Christ is right that them doing some of the things we want as fans won't increase the fan base one bit. But I think he fails to consider something that is very important and that's what happens to the existing fan base when owners continously do what's good for them and forget about what's good for the game. Keep doing things to drive away the existing fans and there will be no sport to bring new ones to.

Owners also can't complain when people don't give them the support and praise they think they deserve. If the Zenyatta people make one sound in support of their horse for HOY, I'd lose all respect I have left for them. If they want to make her case, they should be in the Classic. Let the horse make her own argument. There is something to be said for being sporting. After all, even though this is a huge business, it's still a sport. At it's core, it's still about one thing....my horse is faster than your horse. While nobody HAS to do anything, it's why you gain more respect for a guy like The Aga Kahn. He didn't HAVE to run Zarkava in the Arc. But he knew he had a once in a lifetime kind of horse and he wanted her to PROVE her greatness on the track. She did and because of her owner being as sporting as he is, she'll go down in history. Because of Zenyatta's owners, she'll be forgotten in a couple of years. Again, they don't owe us anything. But I think that sometimes, they forget what it was like to be a fan instead of an owner. They absolutely do cheat the fans. That's not to say that sometimes they don't have legitimate reasons but in the end, it's still cheating the fans.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:06 PM
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No, they don't owe us anything. They can do what they want with their horses. Period. Christ is right that them doing some of the things we want as fans won't increase the fan base one bit.
Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ is writing for the Form!!!???

I tend to agree with Crist. I simply don't see a horse, or even a rivalry being the savior (to keep the theme of this post alive) of the game. Curlin has raced 6 times this year. I saw his last 3 races. The sad fact is that a total of only about 39,000 people saw his last three starts.

Sadly, what is "good for the game" and what is good for the varied factions within the game tend to be many different things.
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