The Preakness looks like a road show of Derby wanna B's

[MisterB]

If it wasn't for the drunks in the infield, this may go down as the dullest Preakness of all time, at least in my years.

How one-sided can it be. If BB doesn't win by 20 lengths, will everybody be mad?

Yea, I know, anything can happen. I just hope nothing tragic happens.

So what do we have, maybe Gayego, who made it to 17th Derby Day.

It might be a nice day to watch Citation reruns.

I would guess BB's odds will be lower than Easy Goers odds 3-5. The only difference, EG got beat that day. Not so likely BB will follow suit. Last I looked, we don't have any Sunday Silence shooters in this field.

Heck, they will still get 100,000 people to come and get hammered.

[zippyneedsawin]

maybe a drunk will wander onto the track and take a swing at a horse... that may be BB's only possible obstacle!

[Better Than Honour]

It is a terrible field, much like the derby. Thank goodness for Casino Drive or Big Brown could win a TC having beaten some of the slowest horses in recent memory.

It looks like Harlem Rocker, Casino Drive, and Unbridled Heart are going to be the big 3 with Big Brown. So we have 4 big-time 3yr olds. That is pretty much par for the course.

I have never seen such a crop though that is really Ohio Derby/West Virginia Derby type material.

It's fascinating that the star of YouTube sensation 'My New Haircut' has a shot to be an owner of the next triple crown winner.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's fascinating that the star of YouTube sensation 'My New Haircut' has a shot to be an owner of the next triple crown winner.

Iavarone in his younger days

[CSC]

What of Denis of Cork? Seems like a lot of people have forgotten him. He reminds me of Birdstone abit, perhaps more because of his smallish stature but if he does decide to go in The Belmont he would be worth a look. He was not properly handled going into the derby with not enough foundation yet he ran a promising third, he could now be ready to run his career best effort at Belmont Park.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by CSC

What of Denis the Cork? Seems like a lot of people have forgotten him. He reminds me of Birdstone abit, perhaps more because of his smallish stature but if he does decide to go in The Belmont he would be worth a look. He was not properly handled going into the derby with not enough foundation yet he ran a promising third, he could now be ready to run his career best effort at Belmont Park.

I like him but his Illinois Derby was terrible and his derby was nice but not spectacular. He could be nice. Maybe win a big race like the Haskell if the top horses don't show up. He looks like a horse that might win a decent race like the Northern Dancer or Dwyer.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

I like him but his Illinois Derby was terrible and his derby was nice but not spectacular. He could be nice. Maybe win a big race like the Haskell if the top horses don't show up. He looks like a horse that might win a decent race like the Northern Dancer or Dwyer.

Good luck in the Dwyer against horses like Unbridled's Heart and Biker Boy.

Originally Posted by philcski

Iavarone in his younger days

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[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Good luck in the Dwyer against horses like Unbridled's Heart and Biker Boy.

Biker Boy is a 93 beyer, 3 rag horse. Unbridled's Heart beat nothing and had everything go his way. Denis of Cork ran a solid third in a race you might have heard of called the Kentucky Derby. He also threw up a 96 beyer at Oaklawn in a 8.5f race, like the Dwyer. So he probably doesn't need luck. He fits there perfectly.

The Dwyer is about a month after the Belmont and if he likes the Belmont track I would suspect you see Denis of Cork there. They still might pass on the Belmont and go to the Northern Dancer at Churchill though.

Denis of Cork is definitely in the Any Given Saturday category of horses.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

4-3-1-2

F-A-A-C

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Biker Boy is a 93 beyer, 3 rag horse. Unbridled's Heart beat nothing and had everything go his way. Denis of Cork ran a solid third in a race you might have heard of called the Kentucky Derby. He also threw up a 96 beyer at Oaklawn in a 8.5f race, like the Dwyer. So he probably doesn't need luck. He fits there perfectly.

The Dwyer is about a month after the Belmont and if he likes the Belmont track I would suspect you see Denis of Cork there. They still might pass on the Belmont and go to the Northern Dancer at Churchill though.

Denis of Cork is definitely in the Any Given Saturday category of horses.

I'm a big Denis of Cork fan but there's no way that he has the talent or potential of Biker Boy or especially UB's Heart. Biker Boy has already run faster than 93 - in his second start . . . and the sky appears to be the limit with UBH - DofC's debut was nice and he ran like an 82 vs. UBH's 100

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I'm a big Denis of Cork fan but there's no way that he has the talent or potential of Biker Boy or especially UB's Heart. Biker Boy has already run faster than 93 - in his second start . . . and the sky appears to be the limit with UBH - DofC's debut was nice and he ran like an 82 vs. UBH's 100

Denis of Cork's 96 beyer in the Southwest makes me believe he fits right in. Didn't he just run 3rd in the Kentucky Derby with a tough trip? Denis of Cork is definitely in their league. They are nice horses but they have an awful lot to prove. The sport is full of horses that never reach their potential. Denis of Cork is a stakes winner and finished 3rd in the biggest grade 1 to date for 3yr olds.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What was tough about his trip?

It wasn't a tough trip so much as he was on the rail eating dirt the entire way. When you trail 19 horses for about 8f of a 10f race you are going to get quite a bit thrown up at you. Even on the replay you could see how bad it was back there.

[hockey2315]

His trip wasn't rough at all - but I do think it was a huge tactical error to have him that far back . . .

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I would agree, although a case could be made had he been running closer his kick wouldn't have been as effective.

You're right. . . but I think he's got more early speed than he showed. . .

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What was tough about his trip?

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[CSC]

Considering Denis of Cork was just lucky to get into the derby as the 21st horse, I thought he ran a pretty nice race. He was the only horse to make up any significant ground that was not on or near the pace. He may be no world beater but given David Carroll opted to bypass The Rebel Stakes in favor of a single prep The Illinois Derby leading to the Kentucky Derby, he may now be ready to run a career race in the Belmont. Casino Drive will now be probably the 'hot' second choice if Big Brown wins the Preakness which would atleast make DOC interesting.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by MisterB

If it wasn't for the drunks in the infield, this may go down as the dullest Preakness of all time, at least in my years.

How one-sided can it be. If BB doesn't win by 20 lengths, will everybody be mad?

Yea, I know, anything can happen. I just hope nothing tragic happens.

So what do we have, maybe Gayego, who made it to 17th Derby Day.

It might be a nice day to watch Citation reruns.

I would guess BB's odds will be lower than Easy Goers odds 3-5. The only difference, EG got beat that day. Not so likely BB will follow suit. Last I looked, we don't have any Sunday Silence shooters in this field.

Heck, they will still get 100,000 people to come and get hammered.

"If it wasn't for the drunks in the infield, this may go down as the dullest Preakness of all time, at least in my years."

that's like saying if it weren't for the art the louvre would be dull.

"How one-sided can it be. If BB doesn't win by 20 lengths, will everybody be mad?"

i checked the rugby board. they're going to be ok.

'Yea, I know, anything can happen. I just hope nothing tragic happens."

like an asteroid destroying civilization?

"So what do we have, maybe Gayego, who made it to 17th Derby Day."

ok. that would be worse than an asteroid.

"It might be a nice day to watch Citation reruns."

or bad bruce willis movies. involving large rocks. hitting planets.

"I would guess BB's odds will be lower than Easy Goers odds 3-5. The only difference, EG got beat that day. Not so likely BB will follow suit. Last I looked, we don't have any Sunday Silence shooters in this field."

^
seemingly immune to asteroid reference

"Heck, they will still get 100,000 people to come and get hammered."

i give up.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Biker Boy is a 93 beyer, 3 rag horse. Unbridled's Heart beat nothing and had everything go his way. Denis of Cork ran a solid third in a race you might have heard of called the Kentucky Derby. He also threw up a 96 beyer at Oaklawn in a 8.5f race, like the Dwyer. So he probably doesn't need luck. He fits there perfectly.

The Dwyer is about a month after the Belmont and if he likes the Belmont track I would suspect you see Denis of Cork there. They still might pass on the Belmont and go to the Northern Dancer at Churchill though.

Denis of Cork is definitely in the Any Given Saturday category of horses.

First of all, Biker Boy got a 97 Beyer ( raw fig of 106 ). Second of all, Unbridled's Heart beat a relatively strong field of maidens, and beat them handily, and I'm not sure how setting a fast pace and drawing away with ease from a solid field, while running relatively faster than a horse you have anointed the second coming, Casino Drive ( who, by the way, had an absolutely perfect trip which you casually ignore ) fits your description of " everything going his way. " But, I guess when you post with an agenda its easy to ignore reality.

The 96 Beyer by Denis of Cork, slower than both Biker Boy and Unbridled's Heart, was earned under the most optimal conditions any horse can have. His Derby performance, by the way I bet him in the race, was decidedly mediocre, as all he did was suck up late, and never made any move whatsoever to attempt to win the race. He's OK, and I hope he does well, but right now I would prefer some of the lightly raced up and comers to the exposed likes of Denis of Cork.

Oh yeah, Denis of Cork couldn't have warmed up Any Given Saturday. I see you saved your most indefensible for last.