5/10 (BEL): Peter Pan; Bold Ruler

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

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9th (5:15) Peter Pan S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Casino Drive Desormeaux K J 116
2 Tomcito Velasquez C 120 L
3 Mint Lane Coa E M 116 L
4 Deputyville Espinoza J L 116 L
1A Spark Candle Chavez J F 116 Blk-On
5 Golden Spikes Prado E S 116 L
6 Ready's Echo Velazquez J R 116 L
7 Cosmic Castellano J J 116 L
8 Fast Talking Garcia Alan 116 L

A-Coupled: Casino Drive and Spark Candle

What happened to Lt. Ron? Hope there's still enough pace for Ready's Echo to be a factor.

[Travis Stone]

Fast Talking is the key for a pace that will set-up for closers.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Fast Talking is the key for a pace that will set-up for closers.

Have you looked at the pps?

This is Golden Spikes' best shot at a Grade 2. He'll never get another setup like this.

[blackthroatedwind]

And, he'll never win a Grade 2.

[hockey2315]

I'm starting to think Golden Spikes is a bum, too. I keep chasing him because of the pedigree and connections but I think it's time to give it up. . .

This is a horrendous race. I'm standing by that.

[NTamm1215]

I'll need a lot more than the 5/2 you're probably going to get on Golden Spikes in order to get excited. His trip was so perfect in the Illinois Derby and he still had no punch whatsoever in the stretch. That was the third consecutive time he went the wrong way in the stretch and all three of those races happened to be at nine furlongs.

If you are going to try to beat the Japanese entry and Golden Spikes (which is advisable) the value will be there on everyone else and there are a couple who are interesting.

NT

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Have you looked at the pps?

Yea... I think Fast Talking is the horse who can ensure a faster pace, he was absolutely strangled back in the Tesio and if they hit roll, he could move along at a good clip.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Yea... I think Fast Talking is the horse who can ensure a faster pace, he was absolutely strangled back in the Tesio and if they hit roll, he could move along at a good clip.

Agreed about the ride last time....but he's hardly a bullet by any stretch of the imagination. And....he has very little ability.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Bold Ruler - Council Member w/ Forefathers & Lucky Island
Peter Pan - Ready's Echo w/ Casino Drive & Golden Spikes

[CSC]

The Trainer for the Japanese entry 'Kazuo Fujisawa' is currently 10th in the Trainer standings in Japan as of the end of April 2008. His strike rate is a respectable 16.2% - from 74 entries.

Having watched a few dirt races from Japan the past few years, My opinion is Japanese runners are stronger in their turf form as opposed to their dirt form and if the entry is overbet, they must be taken on. A 950K yearling that breaks his mdn by 11 1/2 lengths could be any kind but off the shipping and lack of experience he would be hard to take at 2-1 or less.