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Old 05-08-2008, 08:53 AM
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I think you're reading too much into this.

If Big Brown wins the Preakness, and moves on to the Belmont, Desormeaux will be riding- end of story.
Of course he will. So why would a trainer use a rider that he knows he isn't going to have for the Belmont? Wouldn't a trainer put a jockey on the horse that he knows will have ridden him one time before? There are a ton of jockeys out there that will be available for the belmont and peter pan.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:58 AM
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How did KD get the mount on BB anyway? didnt Prado ride him at saratoga? And since Edgar is first call for Dutrow, and KD never seems to ride for him seems weird KD got the call.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:02 AM
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Jeremy Rose had the original mount.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:09 AM
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Jeremy Rose had the original mount.
Yeah, I think Prado was the rider that was named but had a spill earlier in the day, or something like that.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:40 AM
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Are jocks that important anyway?
I know I could name a few I'd rather avoid... but yes, you're right, at this level, they're largely similar.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:43 AM
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Kent also rode Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass. Where were the Clouseaus then?

Deep breaths.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:48 AM
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Sounds to me like they want the best rider they can for the Peter Pan and then they'll deal with the Belmont when it comes. What's the big deal? Are jocks that important anyway?
Exactly. Worry about today and let tomorrow take care of itself.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:51 AM
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Sounds to me like they want the best rider they can for the Peter Pan and then they'll deal with the Belmont when it comes. What's the big deal? Are jocks that important anyway?
If jocks aren't that important than I think they could find quite a few that will be available for the Peter Pan and Belmont. This is Belmont Park. There are a ton of top jockeys there.

KD has a reputation for not showing up sometimes. I wouldn't want him to not show up on my horse knowing that my horse might be a threat to his star mount down the road.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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Come on. Is this like some early excuse for how bad Casino Drive is likely to run?
No. I just don't see any reason to not put a jockey on the horse that will be riding him in the Belmont. It is foolish. Pick a jockey for the Belmont and put him on the horse for the Peter Pan.

He won't run poorly. It probably will be a 6-7 horse field and 3 or 4 of them won't be able to run 12f. Casino Drive obviously has the pedigree to go 12f. He will hit the board and be a serious threat to win if BB doesn't show up or can't run the distance, which seems unlikely. Although 12f is a long way to go with bad feet, especially when it is the 3rd race in 5 weeks.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:59 AM
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How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:02 AM
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I'm just brainstorming here (scary, I know)but maybe there aren't a lot of jocks agents willing to make a 2 race committment to an unknown commodity? These guys and girls for the most part are professional. I don't see the big deal.
Yeah, not to mention that you give yourself the best chance to do well in the Peter Pan and then put yourself in the best position to get the best jockeys available for the Belmont.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:38 PM
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Jeremy Rose had the original mount.
Scarey thing is, they could have stayed with Jeremy Rose and we would be talking about the tragic end of the Kentucky Derby winner right now.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:49 PM
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I'm a big Jeremy Rose fan, so I also question that statement as borderline ridiculous.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:40 AM
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Of course he will. So why would a trainer use a rider that he knows he isn't going to have for the Belmont? Wouldn't a trainer put a jockey on the horse that he knows will have ridden him one time before? There are a ton of jockeys out there that will be available for the belmont and peter pan.
This is just a guess, but it might have something to do with the fact that the "jock who has ridden him before" angle makes virtually no difference whatsoever.
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