News flash to Calvin Borel...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He managed to get to the rail before the 3/16ths pole while starting from post #16.

I absolutely love the way he's ridden the Derby the last two years - going straight to the rail and picking his way through the inside of a 20 horse pack without ever losing momentum.

The problem is that the expected fast pace this year never developed - if it had - he might own the two single best rides in Derby history.

[philcski]

There's ridiculous and then there's this post. Oy vey.

[cakes44]

A couple thoughts for those who want to put me in the corner with the dunce hat on for my opinion:

1) Isn't there some spot in between "sending him" and spotting the entire field 3+ lenghts out of the gate?

2) Would we be defending him so staunchly if Liquidity doesn't miraculously give up the rail last year and Street Sense finishes a well-beaten 2nd?

All I'm saying is that he got very lucky last year(and so did I or anyone else who had him on top) with a rail-loving horse who had a much better turn of foot. Does that mean it is automatically the best choice of trips for DoC the next year? Not in my opinion.

[SniperSB23]

Calvin's ride was just fine. It was the decision to choose post 16 instead of post 2 that baffles me. If Calvin was just going to the rail like that anyways why the hell would you choose post 16?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Calvin's ride was just fine. It was the decision to choose post 16 instead of post 2 that baffles me. If Calvin was just going to the rail like that anyways why the hell would you choose post 16?

This is a really good point. I don't understand the phobia with the inner posts. If you're a longshot, you need luck anyway, so why put yourself in more of a disadvantage of going outside.

DOC was absolutely a contender. He ran 3rd with no pace to close into. 3rd beats 17 others...not too bad.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He managed to get to the rail before the 3/16ths pole while starting from post #16.

I absolutely love the way he's ridden the Derby the last two years - going straight to the rail and picking his way through the inside of a 20 horse pack without ever losing momentum.

The problem is that the expected fast pace this year never developed - if it had - he might own the two single best rides in Derby history.

The ride is fine......but I loath this horse in the Belmont, it would be nice if BB lost new week and we can get a full field in the belmont as I want to bet against DoC.

[MisterB]

If the plan was to ride the rail, why did the trainer and connections park his ass outside, when they could have chosen inside.

[Danzig]

horse finished third, beating 17 in the process, and it's not good enough? their plan worked, his resume will show 'hit the board in the gr 1 ky derby'. i don't know that calvin could have done ANYTHING to improve his finish position.