NBA playoff rant:

[alysheba4]

what about the choke job by nash.......the biggest overrated 2 TIME m.v.p
that ever played in the n.b.a. and to think kobe has zero m.v.p awards is as larry bird said this morning a total embarrasment.

[King Glorious]

I think that people often forget what the MVP award is about. It's not necessarily for the best player in the league. If that was the case, Michael Jordan should have won it every year. But he didn't. Hell, they gave it to Barkley and Malone in years that MJ beat them in the finals. Same thing when they gave it to Robinson and Olajuwon crushed him in the playoffs. It's about more than that though. If I had a vote, I wouldn't simply vote fore who I thought was the best player. I would look to a guy that I thought had the best combination of being a great player and the most influential to his team's success. This year, Kobe was great. But I don't think he was better than he was the previous two seasons. Even this season, until they put Bynum into the starting lineup and he started flourishing, the Lakers were a .500 team. Then when Bynum went out, they struggled again until they got Gasol. So I question how much impact Kobe really had on that team. Even the past couple of years, they had a better record with Odom and no Kobe than they did with Kobe and no Odom. The argument can be made that when Nash won his first one, it should have gone to Shaq. I chose Shaq myself. Last year, I chose LeBron. But to say that it's an embarrassment that Nash won either of them is wrong. He was very much in the convo and very deserving. Where the Suns were, what he led them to, and what they are when he's not playing.....he's very much in the convo.

The reason why Kobe or KG wouldn't get it from me is because they alone didn't account for the big improvement of their respective teams. I don't think they had the same influence on their teams that Chris Paul or LeBron James did. I'm not even sure that they had a bigger influence on their teams than Tracy McGrady has on the Rockets. When you consider what the Rockets have done and where they are and then look, really look at that lineup, you really gain a lot of respect for McGrady. Everyone thought the season was lost when Yao went down but not only wasn't it lost, they stayed in contention for the top record in the conference until the final two games. All season long, my vote was for either James or Paul. At the end, I'd go with McGrady. Not as the best player but as the MVP.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I think that people often forget what the MVP award is about. It's not necessarily for the best player in the league. If that was the case, Michael Jordan should have won it every year. But he didn't. Hell, they gave it to Barkley and Malone in years that MJ beat them in the finals. Same thing when they gave it to Robinson and Olajuwon crushed him in the playoffs. It's about more than that though. If I had a vote, I wouldn't simply vote fore who I thought was the best player. I would look to a guy that I thought had the best combination of being a great player and the most influential to his team's success. This year, Kobe was great. But I don't think he was better than he was the previous two seasons. Even this season, until they put Bynum into the starting lineup and he started flourishing, the Lakers were a .500 team. Then when Bynum went out, they struggled again until they got Gasol. So I question how much impact Kobe really had on that team. Even the past couple of years, they had a better record with Odom and no Kobe than they did with Kobe and no Odom. The argument can be made that when Nash won his first one, it should have gone to Shaq. I chose Shaq myself. Last year, I chose LeBron. But to say that it's an embarrassment that Nash won either of them is wrong. He was very much in the convo and very deserving. Where the Suns were, what he led them to, and what they are when he's not playing.....he's very much in the convo.

The reason why Kobe or KG wouldn't get it from me is because they alone didn't account for the big improvement of their respective teams. I don't think they had the same influence on their teams that Chris Paul or LeBron James did. I'm not even sure that they had a bigger influence on their teams than Tracy McGrady has on the Rockets. When you consider what the Rockets have done and where they are and then look, really look at that lineup, you really gain a lot of respect for McGrady. Everyone thought the season was lost when Yao went down but not only wasn't it lost, they stayed in contention for the top record in the conference until the final two games. All season long, my vote was for either James or Paul. At the end, I'd go with McGrady. Not as the best player but as the MVP.

.......you just explained WHY the award is flawed, its a opinion of who is the mvp to his respective team......impossible to say. what is clear, is that kobe is the best all around player in basketball......has been for 5 straight years, lebron is nipping at his heals. when they gave the awards to bark and karl over m.j. that was a laugh......

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

.......you just explained WHY the award is flawed, its a opinion of who is the mvp to his respective team......impossible to say. what is clear, is that kobe is the best all around player in basketball......has been for 5 straight years, lebron is nipping at his heals. when they gave the awards to bark and karl over m.j. that was a laugh......

I think there should be two awards. One for player of the year and one for most valuable to his team. I don't think though that it's clear that Bryant is the best player in the game. I go with James for that honor. James is so unselfish that people forget just how dominant he can be offensively if he chose to be. If he wanted to, I have little doubt that James could be a guy that goes for over 36 and 10 boards a night. His free-throw shooting hurt him and he's not as good an outside shooter as Bryant is but his ability to get to the basket is as good as if not better than Bryant. I think his ability to finish at the basket is better. He's much better at reading a defense and making the right play in any situation than Bryant is. That play in the last game against Washington was the perfect illustration of what kind of player he is. Last year against Detroit, he had the same situation and made a pass then too and when the shot was missed, he was criticized. People said that as the superstar, he needs to be the one taking the shot and not deferring to anyone. But that's not who he is. He's going to make the right play and sometimes, that's making the pass to the wide open guy.

It's tight as vagina in a convent but I'd go with James over Bryant.

[Mortimer]

Uh...have you ever been in a convent?

Originally Posted by alysheba4

what about the choke job by nash.......the biggest overrated 2 TIME m.v.p
that ever played in the n.b.a. and to think kobe has zero m.v.p awards is as larry bird said this morning a total embarrasment.

He is one of the most unique guards to ever
play the game. In fairness to this guy, he has
really bad back problems. Watch him on the bench.
Nash is the major reason the Suns have been so good
in the regular season for so long. This is MVP time.

Sad truth is Nash's body is wearing down. He has never
been good on D. Now he is a glaring detriment. He played against
the wrong point guard in this series... one of the fastest best finishers
in the league. And Phoenix plays bad help D. Against LA, Phoenix has a
chance. Mavs also. I dont care what happened in the regular season.

Also Bruce Bowen is
one of the most versatile defenders ever. Nash did really
screw up in the end. He aint the first with Bruce Bowen
and help. Lebron could not even get a win with Bowen and
help. Bowen shut down Detroit in the end of the 7th game
against Chauncey Billups (they took Parker off Billups)
I give Bowen credit.
It was a very tough playoff for Nash.

It was worse for Shaq. (I make my free throws when
they count). When do Free throws not count?
He lost to his alltime enemy, Tim Duncan.

Good bye flubber lips "I wanna get my next ring before Duncan"
I predict Shaq gets trapped in the sand beachcombing
and is removed by a crane.

Sit your butt down or go practice Free Throws ya big oaf.
Disgrace to basketball. Cant shoot a flippn 15 foot shot.

Now thats a rant.

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WRITE AN EPIC ABOUT IT

[alysheba4]

keneth keith......r.i.p

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

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AN EPIC ABOUT IT


quit reading the threads wad-man

[Mortimer]

Oh geez..that was very amusing.


OOOOOOOOOO

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Oh geez..that was very amusing.


OOOOOOOOOO

crinkle thud OOOOOO pie mighty white of you behooved

I humbly ask for full mobilization
of new material.

[Mortimer]

Have they changed the words to God Bless America???

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Have they changed the words to God Bless America???

touche

continue on little Buddy.

-The Skipper

Boston/Atlanta

Hell of a game.
Some interesting things
have come to light.

Pierce shows immature nature in the playoffs.
That foul and then tech. hurt his team badly. Then he
walks around brooding in front of the whole bench.

Rondo sits out most of the last 5 min of the
game and they let Cassell handle the ball.

Ray Allen chokes easy shots under the basket
trying to get fouled, misses a wide open 3 to take the lead.

The only one of the big 3 who really played well during
crunch time was Garnett.

Does not bode well for the NBA. The Celtics must make
the finals and right now they got two of their best
3 players playing like rookies in tight times. And their starting
PG sits out the last 5 min. of a close game in favor of
ancient Sam Cassell. Look very bad in close games. Its easy when
you just blow out teams. There will be more close games.

Not good.

[alysheba4]

celtics are a big embarassment so far.....

Worst playoff game I have ever
seen from Duncan. EVER.

West murdered us.

But:

1. We can get under Paul's skin.
2. Bonzi Well's can implode.

All is not lost.
Except for Hornets flying thru fire.