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Old 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM
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Meet up for a beer in toga when I get there for the Travers... We got off on a bad foot here and I'd like to buy you a beer to sooth over any ill will.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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I give Haskin a lot of credit for being somewhat creative and not just landing on one of the 2-3 favorites.

Mostly, I give him credit for a write up devoid of strings of Speed Figures.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:20 PM
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I give Haskin a lot of credit for being somewhat creative and not just landing on one of the 2-3 favorites.

Mostly, I give him credit for a write up devoid of strings of Speed Figures.
that was my thought. I don't get what the big issue people have with his list is all about. especially in a year like this. chaos may rule the day in which case some out-of-the-box thinking might be in order. year in year out this race is unlike any other and I'm not aware of any derby guru's on here. sure we all have our strongly held opinions beforehand, knowing full well that we could be all wet come D day.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:29 PM
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You don't think there are far more creative horses who will be far bigger prices than Monba?

People who think he won't attract a good deal of money will probably be proven wrong.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:40 PM
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You don't think there are far more creative horses who will be far bigger prices than Monba?

People who think he won't attract a good deal of money will probably be proven wrong.
I didn't catch the part where he says Monba is THE value play of the derby.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:51 PM
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Ranking him #1 when all the meaningful preps have been run basically says that and more.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:54 PM
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Ranking him #1 when all the meaningful preps have been run basically says that and more.
he said he picked the horse early on, and is sticking with him now and gave his reasons which did not include value. Monba wouldn't be my pick on top, but I can envision why someone might want to back him.

Odd though that your knock on Haskin is based on value. Didn't you announce that you're going with Pyro? For me he is a low value play because you're going to get perhaps only single digit odds in the KD coming off of that horrible performance on a horse that to me its really not clear just how good he is even on his best day/surface. Before the BG I considered him in the group of more likely winners, but I'm not simply going to draw a line through that race as many are advocating. That assumes way too much imo.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:52 PM
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I just want to point out that I don't have anything against Mr. Haskin. I check his list every week and was just surprised with how much stock he put in the results of the Bluegrass. Wasn't really trying to bash him. . .
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:59 PM
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Meet up for a beer in toga when I get there for the Travers... We got off on a bad foot here and I'd like to buy you a beer to sooth over any ill will.
Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:03 PM
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Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
didn't a wise man say beer was the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems?

oh wait, that was Homer Simpson.
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:07 PM
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didn't a wise man say beer was the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems?

oh wait, that was Homer Simpson.
He is wiser than many
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:35 AM
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:04 AM
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Doesn't last yrs crop of 3yr olds Curlin, Street Sense and Any Given Saturday tower over the 2008 crop at their same stage of development this yr?
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:16 AM
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Doesn't last yrs crop of 3yr olds Curlin, Street Sense and Any Given Saturday tower over the 2008 crop at their same stage of development this yr?
Absolutely...and the year before that. That's one of the reasons it's hard to make the "Big Brown/ Curlin 3 starts isn't enough" argument. As we know, Curlin turned into a great racehorse, but he still did manage 3rd with a troubled trip behind two that would trounce this field.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:34 AM
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Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
Beer.....!!!!!

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