Pyro Smyro.. What A Slow Horse...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He ran awful and it was definitely not the kind of final prep you'd like to see. I just think he deserves the benefit of the doubt because of the surface.

He's a closer that didn't like the surface and had no pace to run at. Who exactly was he supposed to pass at the end?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's a closer that like the surface and had no pace to run at. Who exactly was he supposed to pass at the end?

The pace was above average for a Keeneland 9f race.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's a closer that didn't like the surface and had no pace to run at. Who exactly was he supposed to pass at the end?

Maybe he was depressed he didnt get a chance to pass BLACKBERRY ROAD again.

[Thunder Gulch]

They are all slow on figures this year, but Pyro has shown the best closing kick, which may be reason enough to bet him with the way this race always seems to be run.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

They are all slow on figures this year, but Pyro has shown the best closing kick, which may be reason enough to bet him with the way this race always seems to be run.

Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.

Don't you really mean that you like his price more now? Nothing from that race can make you like the horse more than before.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Don't you really mean that you like his price more now? Nothing from that race can make you like the horse more than before.

As a horse, I like him just as much as I did before the race. As a betting interest, I like him more now.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

As a horse, I like him just as much as I did before the race. As a betting interest, I like him more now.

Talked about the same thing with some of the guys at OTB Saturday after the race. Pyro immediately became probably the most attractive bet in the Derby to me. I don't always draw a line through Poly races by default, but I think he's legit and the price just got a whole lot more fair.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.

........ team, you will be getting a gift at anything above 5/1. he will hit the board but big brown is a FREAK. he will win by daylight.

[sdjcom]

Sorry I Respectfully Disagree, The Derby Is Rarely Won By A Horse
From Off The Pace, Maybe Staking 4-5th By Raely Off The The Pace Except For Street Sense And Sea Hero In The Last 20 Years

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Sorry I Respectfully Disagree, The Derby Is Rarely Won By A Horse
From Off The Pace, Maybe Staking 4-5th By Raely Off The The Pace Except For Street Sense And Sea Hero In The Last 20 Years

With all due respect, this is wrong.

[slotdirt]

Giacomo was really close to that pace in '05, same with Monarchos in 2001 and even Fusaichi Pegasus in 2000. Those guys were all real pressers and stalkers.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Giacomo was really close to that pace in '05, same with Monarchos in 2001 and even Fusaichi Pegasus in 2000. Those guys were all real pressers and stalkers.

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