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Old 04-13-2008, 10:56 PM
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o boy....
whatever im not doing this.
is pyro fast ?
why not? war pass beat pyro at two, at shorter distances. times have changed, and the results may as well.
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:07 PM
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I would love to see War Pass vs. Commentator at a mile. . . Commentator would probably spit the bit, though. . .
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:58 AM
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"And if I may quote Bob Baffert, "Polytrack makes good horses look average, and average horses look good"."


Finishing tenth is not a race of an average horse. Even if he wasn't cranked up he surely should have been somewhere in the vicinity of the top three. Nazfger last year with STREET SENSE was believable that he wasn't cranked up and he managed a fourth place blanket finish. PYRO only blanketed the ambulance around the track.I expect more than that from a good horse.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:07 AM
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"And if I may quote Bob Baffert, "Polytrack makes good horses look average, and average horses look good"."


Finishing tenth is not a race of an average horse. Even if he wasn't cranked up he surely should have been somewhere in the vicinity of the top three. Nazfger last year with STREET SENSE was believable that he wasn't cranked up and he managed a fourth place blanket finish. PYRO only blanketed the ambulance around the track.I expect more than that from a good horse.


As JJP said, if he didn't handle the surface (and don't act like that's some wild supposition), what difference does it make if he ran sixth or tenth? He wasn't asked much by Bridgmo and once he saw that he couldn't place, he left him alone. The fact that the second and third choices ran ninth and eleventh gives even more cause to laugh off the race.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:21 AM
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“I asked him for run around the turn to try and set myself up pretty good and I didn’t get the response I was hoping for,” said jockey Shaun Bridgmohan. “I realized on the turn that it just wasn’t going to be his day.”


Maybe at some point PYRO was eased on but not before trying to run his usual race. I can understand the theory that he didnt take to the track or he wasn't being pushed hard training for this race to keep him fresh for the Derby/Triple Crown. My point is he finished so far back it couldnt be good for fitness or confidence in him. Now worse to hear he finished tenth in race that mustered such a low figure is terrible. Top class horses don't run final prep clunkers like that. Funny thing is the race might set up for him but I personally think he'll flatten out and conditioning will come to question after the race. Good luck with him.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:35 AM
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Running a terrible race on any surface on your final prep to the Derby traditionally doesn't payoff. If PYRO had trained on polytrack and showed displeasure over it I'm sure Assmussen would have looked for an alternative race. PYRO had three published works at Keeneland since March 24th. He had enough time to adjust to the surroundings and track. Apparently he didnt show any negative signs for him to be shipped elsewhere. I could accept a step back to setup for the Derby but this was alot more than a step back.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:40 AM
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He ran awful and it was definitely not the kind of final prep you'd like to see. I just think he deserves the benefit of the doubt because of the surface.
He's a closer that didn't like the surface and had no pace to run at. Who exactly was he supposed to pass at the end?
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:39 AM
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I have a question. Say Pyro ran in a turf stake last Saturday and not the Bluegrass, and was up the track. Would people still question his conditioning, etc?

I also find it amusing someone that is touting Court Vision, is also saying Pyro is too slow to win.
This year I'm almost worried that Court Vision might be slow enough TO win.
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