Cleveland Indians

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

I have a correction.

Sabbathia left two runners on when yanked....and both scored.So he gave up NINE earned runs!!...in just THREE innings!!








I'd like to see MainCourse wiggle out of stinky-poo for that colossally inept performance.





But CC's era is still under 12.




Fine work.

I can't. He has been dreadfully abysmal this year...yes stinky-poo. Unless he's hurt, I really don't think he's a 12 ERA pitcher. He obviously will fall a bit from what he did last year, but I think he'll be better in his starts as the year goes on. Can you really do worse than 12 hits and 9 earned runs in 3 plus innings?? I still think you're looking at 12-16 wins and a near 4 ERA for the fat guy this year. And that will be ok.

(Although you may have a point about his head-case-dom...he certainly helped them get INTO post season last year, but once there was not the same pitcher...of course neither was Carmona minus one bug game...but if he is that mental...this is contract year...each start like today and his massive pay-day drops and drops. And that could affect him and will. I still think he'll revert at least to pre-2005 form at worst.) Overall I think he's a good guy (I don't think he ever had chosen one status in Cleveland!! Don't remember visages of the fat man on downtown skyscrapers!!). Minus his rookie year when it was the last of their original Jacobs field glory years, he pitched for a lot of bad teams and never complained at all and was extremely, extremely good from the 2nd half of 2005 through last year. Been a really good player in Cleveland. I just can't massacre good players in the town as you guys do.