4/12 (GP): Holy Bull (Gr. III)

lemoncrush · #1 04-07-2008, 03:03 PM

interesting that this race was moved so far back into calendar, and also lengthened to 1-3/16. Seems like a Preakness prep now more than anything, and winning this race won't get you into the Derby field unless you already have 40-50K in graded earnings in the bank.

SniperSB23 · #2 04-07-2008, 03:11 PM

A really stupid decision to move this race.

Scav · #3 04-07-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

A really stupid decision to move this race.

Think this race is more of a setup for the Preakness, then it is the derby, although Gulfstream would like to think it would be for the Derby

SniperSB23 · #4 04-07-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Think this race is more of a setup for the Preakness, then it is the derby, although Gulfstream would like to think it would be for the Derby

Look at the prospective field. This race won't be setting up anything but a cheap G3 on the resume. At one mile on Donn weekend it would have drawn a very good field.

jcs11204 · #5 04-07-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Look at the prospective field. This race won't be setting up anything but a cheap G3 on the resume. At one mile on Donn weekend it would have drawn a very good field.

yes sir, if i recall correctly the donn card was not the greatest either.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #6 04-07-2008, 04:13 PM

Enough of the prep races @ GP already! That meet is way to way long.

Kasept · #7 04-08-2008, 05:14 PM

Samba Rooster an interesting participant here.. Worth keeping an eye on.

bogeydaman · #8 04-12-2008, 09:06 AM

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Look at the prospective field. This race won't be setting up anything but a cheap G3 on the resume. At one mile on Donn weekend it would have drawn a very good field..

Not sure about that. The Swale was Donn Handicap day and it was quite frankly one of the worst 3 year old G2 fields I have seen at GP in quite some time. I don't see the argument that if the race was run a furlong and a half longer and lesser its grade status it will "draw a very good field" compared to the Swale.

SniperSB23 · #9 04-12-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bogeydaman

Not sure about that. The Swale was Donn Handicap day and it was quite frankly one of the worst 3 year old G2 fields I have seen at GP in quite some time. I don't see the argument that if the race was run a furlong and a half longer and lesser its grade status it will "draw a very good field" compared to the Swale.

No Derby contenders come back at 6.5 furlongs anymore. There were a bunch of horses in Mott and Zito's barns among others that would have been strongly considered for a one turn mile on Donn Day but had absolutely no interest in a 6.5 furlong race. The Holy Bull field would have dwarfed the Swale field.