Dennis of cork, albarado off??

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Oh, let's go ahead and get into it.
Easy Goer was one hell of a horse. There is no question about it.
That being said, the better horse won three out of four in that series. Not even nearly twenty years of New York-biased whining coupled with accusations of questionable merit can change that fact.

Frozen blood samples would have come in handy at some point over these 20 years..

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Frozen blood samples would have come in handy at some point over these 20 years..

Where is this "doped" Sunday Silence angle coming from?

It's certainly interesting, because it was Easy Goer that dropped dead of cancer at the tender age of 9.

Of course, he was stabled for the most part at Belmont, so maybe those X-File guys were spraying the barn area even back then.

Mr. Wilhelm?

My name is Tina...

You chose HIM over ME?!

[Bystander]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Where is this "doped" Sunday Silence angle coming from?

It's certainly interesting, because it was Easy Goer that dropped dead of cancer at the tender age of 9.

Of course, he was stabled for the most part at Belmont, so maybe those X-File guys were spraying the barn area even back then.

Mr. Wilhelm?

My name is Tina...

You chose HIM over ME?!

Your Seinfeld-savant skills are truly wasted here, Mr. Tomasi.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Bystander

Your Seinfeld-savant skills are truly wasted here, Mr. Tomasi.

I'll work nights?

I'm sorry...we have to let you go.

But I don't even really work here!

That's what makes this so difficult...

[Bystander]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'll work nights?

I'm sorry...we have to let you go.

But I don't even really work here!

That's what makes this so difficult...

Your fly's open.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Bystander

Your fly's open.

By the end, he was left with nothing but a deformed claw...and had to rely on Cub Scouts to feed him...

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Bystander

Your Seinfeld-savant skills are truly wasted here, Mr. Tomasi.

he'll have to do better than that I'm afraid.

Wilhelm says "my name is Tonya", not "Tina"

its as if you have no business skills whatsoever.

well I'm just trying to get ahead.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he'll have to do better than that I'm afraid.

Wilhelm says "my name is Tonya", not "Tina"

its as if you have no business skills whatsoever.

well I'm just trying to get ahead.

What's my name?

....uhhh......Mulva?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What's my name?

....uhhh......Mulva?

I prefer to be called maestro.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I prefer to be called maestro.

So he told you to put the balm on...and you DO IT?!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Where is this "doped" Sunday Silence angle coming from?

It's certainly interesting, because it was Easy Goer that dropped dead of cancer at the tender age of 9.

While I strenuously disagree with the notion that the so-called "evidence" in this matter has ANY validity whatsoever, I assure you that Steve isn't just making this up on the spot. Nor he is in any way alone in making this argument.
For nearly two decades the conspiracy-theorists (who curiously all seem to hail from one state) have been arguing that the Belmont Stakes was the only meeting between these two horses in which Harthill couldn't administer some nefarious substance to Sunday Silence. Basically the argument goes that Whittingham was a despicable cheater who was prevented from cheating in this one race by the tremendous barn-security that exists - apparently - "only in New York."
I don't buy it.....but there are plenty of people who do.
I assume they probably also have some explanation/excuse for why Sunday Silence outperformed Easy Goer in the shed, but it too probably doesn't involve saying the words, "Sunday Silence was simply better."

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I assume they probably also have some explanation/excuse for why Sunday Silence outperformed Easy Goer in the shed, but it too probably doesn't involve saying the words, "Sunday Silence was simply better."

I don't think that proved much of anything about who was the better horse.

SS sired many excellent turf horses...but him being such a great turf sire shouldn't have come as a big shock, as his sire Halo was a Grade 1 winner on turf and his dam Wishing Well moved way up on turf and went from a claimer to a multiple Graded Stakes winner.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't think that proved much of anything about who was the better horse.
SS sired many excellent turf horses...but him being such a great turf sire shouldn't have come as a big shock, as his sire Halo was a Grade 1 winner on turf and his dam Wishing Well moved way up on turf and went from a claimer to a multiple Graded Stakes winner.

Of course not. I never suggested that it did.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by miraja2

While I strenuously disagree with the notion that the so-called "evidence" in this matter has ANY validity whatsoever, I assure you that Steve isn't just making this up on the spot. Nor he is in any way alone in making this argument.
For nearly two decades the conspiracy-theorists (who curiously all seem to hail from one state) have been arguing that the Belmont Stakes was the only meeting between these two horses in which Harthill couldn't administer some nefarious substance to Sunday Silence. Basically the argument goes that Whittingham was a despicable cheater who was prevented from cheating in this one race by the tremendous barn-security that exists - apparently - "only in New York."

Thanks. I never knew there was that much talk. Shocking that the beloved Alex Harthill was involved in the story. Personally, I'm still waiting for the DRF to add vet stats to its PPs. I'm sure NY's Doc Cheney and his young Vader-like protege, Dr. Allday used only Jedi holistic powers to maintain the Phipps Empire....er...I mean...Stable...

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Thanks. I never knew there was that much talk. Shocking that the beloved Alex Harthill was involved in the story. Personally, I'm still waiting for the DRF to add vet stats to its PPs. I'm sure NY's Doc Cheney and his young Vader-like protege, Dr. Allday used only Jedi holistic powers to maintain the Phipps Empire....er...I mean...Stable...

Yeah, there have always been a lot of allegations.
Are they legitimate? As I said before, I don't think so, but there are a lot of smart and informed people (like Steve apparently) that disagree.
Basically, I have always been such a huge fan of Sunday Silence, that I am not really sure how unbiased my opinion in this matter can really be.