Big Truck - NY bred

[Linny]

Defer was a pretty good 2yo and Danzig is a speedy sireline. I tend to think that if he'd been with a trainer other than Shug (who I like, don't get me wrong) whose horses rarely have that sharp early speed, he might have had a different trajectory. If he'd been with Assmussen or Pletcher or Jerkens etc. He might have been "sharper" at 2. (I like Shug, but in the quest for a classic 3yo, the Phipps' don't seem to ask for any speed in their 2yos.)
Agreed about PA in terms of plodding sireline but the Copelans have speed.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Linny

Defer was a pretty good 2yo and Danzig is a speedy sireline.

I remember Defer running in just two stakes at age 2 - he got beat by a pole by Rockport Harbor in the Nashua with a 72 Beyer for running 2nd, and he won the slowest LRL Futurity in memory over a horse named Funk.

His pedigree is great and all - but he is a long way away from being the kind of brilliant horse that tends to do best at stud.