For Blackthroat & Big Brown (104 BSF) fans - Page 10

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**181** 03-06-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

So if WP develops a quarter crack tomorrow and misses 6 months you are a genius? It's Fn horses .. WP hasn't done anything wrong as is extremely fast how the heck do you know what he is...he could be SSlew for all we know.. shut up and cheer for them both to be great. Why does anyone have to guess who will be better? As for who is better so far its a ridiculous question WP has been AWESOME

No, it's only if they race each other.

It isn't who has been better so far. It is who is the more talented horse. When they meet up, who will win. What handicapper doesn't have to make decisions like this all the time?

#**182** 03-06-2008, 01:09 PM

From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

freddymo · #**183** 03-06-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

No, it's only if they race each other.

I once asked Clint Glaibraith trainer of the one greatest Standard breds Niatross who was the better of the two colts he trained Niatross or Call for Rain... he laughed at me said "Niatross was way faster but he would have loved to take Call for Rain a long side and challenge him because he was the toughest SOB he had ever ridden" in other words he had no clue who would win on any given day..

Yet you seem to know who is better from watching a colt for the second time.. congrats

freddymo · #**184** 03-06-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer

From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

Is this the same idiot who had Champ EL 45 lengths off the pace and cost the horse any chance of winning?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**185** 03-06-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer

From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

I didn't say that. Everyone else said that. Not me. This excerpt says exactly what I said. The horse wasn't all out down the stretch because the jock didn't ask him. He never asked him. He was holding him back.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**186** 03-06-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Handicappers bet their hard earned money betting on their opinions. That is what is important to them. Who cares who's more talented besides you?

Um, what about Derby futures?

How about handicapping in general? When isn't a handicapper trying to assess and analyze one horse's talent and ability from another when they are entered in the same race?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**187** 03-06-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You are talking about apples and oranges and as usual have no clue what you are talking about.

Apples and oranges? I think not. I don't have a clue what I am talking about...oh, how odd, that's all I ever get on this board, and I think it is very funny coming from someone who says that we are talking about apples and oranges. Analyzing ability and talent is a large part of handicapping, and that is what comparing War Pass and Big Brown is all about. How is it not? What about the Derby future wagers?

My questions won't get answered.

SniperSB23 · #**188** 03-06-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Um, what about Derby futures?

How about handicapping in general? When isn't a handicapper trying to assess and analyze one horse's talent and ability from another when they are entered in the same race?

Big Brown is in the increasingly appetizing "All other 3yo" option in the Derby future pool.

You haven't set a distance for the race or said who else would be in the field. Without that info there is absolutely no handicapping you can do. Plus we are comparing a runaway winner in an off the turfer to a proven stakes horse.

#**189** 03-06-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Apples and oranges? I think not. I don't have a clue what I am talking about...oh, how odd, that's all I ever get on this board, and I think it is very funny coming from someone who says that we are talking about apples and oranges. Analyzing ability and talent is a large part of handicapping, and that is what comparing War Pass and Big Brown is all about. How is it not? What about the Derby future wagers?

Did you bet the race?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**190** 03-06-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Did you bet the race?

Derby futures? Which race?

miraja2 · #**191** 03-06-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Derby futures? Which race?

THE RACE THAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**192** 03-06-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Derby futures? Which race?

you are the devil!!

GBBob · #**193** 03-06-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

you are the devil!!

but is she a face painter?

freddymo · #**194** 03-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Hasn't Boundary tossed a bunch of Sprinter type (grass) sorts that have been very good early and then fizzled out.. The colt has a handled the dirt well enough but I have more then a shadow of doubt that he just might be best between 7 and 8f's.. He hasn't taken a bad step but I remain a bit cautious.

philcski · #**195** 03-06-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Hasn't Boundary tossed a bunch of Sprinter type (grass) sorts that have been very good early and then fizzled out.. The colt has a handled the dirt well enough but I have more then a shadow of doubt that he just might be best between 7 and 8f's.. He hasn't taken a bad step but I remain a bit cautious.

He hasn't had much at all, to be honest. Think Minardi might be his best.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**196** 03-06-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Your questions won't get answered because you are too stupid to comprehend the answer. At 21 or whatever you are you feel as though you have everything in the world figured out. Good for you. It must be nice. I was like you also, only difference is I was 13 and eventually i grew up (sort of). I could go on, but what's the point?

This is hysterical...haha!

Bigsmc · #**197** 03-06-2008, 01:48 PM

This is the best.

I was waiting for my vehicle to get repaired, so I thought I'd open up the Big Brown Book. Much to my delight, what started out as a normal thread got boosted in the middle by the re-appearance of PG1985 (9 for 9) and the cherry on top is the late entry of the narcissistic ramblings of KRIM.

Thank you, thank you one and all, for livening up what was otherwise a very dreary day for me.

philcski · #**198** 03-06-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer

From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I didn't say that. Everyone else said that. Not me. This excerpt says exactly what I said. The horse wasn't all out down the stretch because the jock didn't ask him. He never asked him. He was holding him back.

You guys are talking about TWO DIFFERENT HORSES. The top is referencing GIANT MOON, not BIG BROWN.

Easy Goer, wouldn't you take the time to know that? C'mon, you're better than that.

Scav · #**199** 03-06-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

You guys are talking about TWO DIFFERENT HORSES. The top is referencing GIANT MOON, not BIG BROWN.

Easy Goer, wouldn't you take the time to know that? C'mon, you're better than that.

LOL

I thought something was up when I saw Schoesburg as the quoted trainer. I figured I would let these two lovebirds go at it.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**200** 03-06-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

You guys are talking about TWO DIFFERENT HORSES. The top is referencing GIANT MOON, not BIG BROWN.

Easy Goer, wouldn't you take the time to know that? C'mon, you're better than that.

Sorry, I assumed that he was right, and that was Big Brown. That is my mistake.