For Blackthroat & Big Brown (104 BSF) fans - Page 9

freddymo · #**161** 03-06-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Here are horses that I have put up on the board that I picked off of their maiden wins to be good/great horses.

Lady Joanne
Welcome Inn (stakes winner)
Day Pass (stakes winner)
Rags to Riches (only had one reply to that post)(said she was the best filly that I had ever seen off maiden win)
Curlin(said that he was one of the best horses that I had ever seen off maiden win)
Ravel
Zada Belle
Indyanne

You can find all of this information in various posts throughout the years.

I haven't given out that many. Just a few. I don't like to give the horses out anymore because my knowledge in this area isn't appreciated. Now, I only throw one out there every once in awhile. Big Brown=monster. Now watch it all unfold in the next couple of months. Call me a novice all you want to. Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true. I'm not the one that was completely wrong about Lawyer Ron. I have never been wrong like that about a horse's talent. Winning particular races...yes. But, not with overall talent.

You would be my hero if you were able to post maiden winners who BSF are 95 or greater and who are going to be Frogs.. Then I could trim your roses with pleasure...

miraja2 · #**162** 03-06-2008, 12:19 PM

Were there a lot of people that were NOT impressed by Curlin's debut?

This is crazy. I am pretty sure that I thought Discreet Cat was going to be good after his debut too. Same with Artie Schiller.

When horses run really fast, you can sometimes recognize that they did so? Congratulations.

Why do you insist on making every thread you participate in about you and your "record?" It is really tiresome and no longer even entertaining.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**163** 03-06-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Any idiot can see a horse run a fast race and declare " this is a good horse. " That kind of insight is useless.

That is true. But, not very many can do it when the horses don't run fast times or have that great of Beyers first time out...at least, not that I have ever seen.

This was the case with some of the horses that I named. I threw them out there, and you won't find one horse that I picked out off their maiden win and posted on this board where that horse didn't turn out to be really good.

Where was everyone else saying that Rags to Riches was a great filly off of her maiden win? I had just one reply to that thread. Just one. No one else was even talking about her at the time.

And sometimes good Beyers and fast times don't mean anything first time out. Beyers are often wrong, and tracks often play faster sometimes than others.

blackthroatedwind · #**164** 03-06-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

You would be my hero if you were able to post maiden winners who BSF are 95 or greater and who are going to be Frogs.. Then I could trim your roses with pleasure...

Or like when I said on my show after Cool Coal Man finished fourth in his debut that he could go on to be a stakes winner.

It is only in seeing what isn't obvious that is useful.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**165** 03-06-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Any idiot can see a horse run a fast race and declare " this is a good horse. " That kind of insight is useless.

Who is better in your opinion. Who would you take...Big Brown or War Pass?

#**166** 03-06-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Who is better in your opinion. Who would you take...Big Brown or War Pass?

Jesustapdancingcrist

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**167** 03-06-2008, 12:36 PM

Come on, BTW, who is going to end up being the better horse in your opinion? It's not that hard...just two horses...War Pass or Big Brown? Take a stand.

freddymo · #**168** 03-06-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Who is better in your opinion. Who would you take...Big Brown or War Pass?

OMFG.. Rosie the FN colt won a 7f comeback in stylish fashion and you are mentioning him with WP? Can he beat a graded winner first or how about a two turn race?

#**169** 03-06-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Come on, BTW, who is going to end up being the better horse in your opinion? It's not that hard...just two horses...War Pass or Big Brown?

War Pass.

I'm a shark...

freddymo · #**170** 03-06-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

War Pass.

I'm a shark...

Chicken of the Sea

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**171** 03-06-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

OMFG.. Rosie the FN colt won a 7f comeback in stylish fashion and you are mentioning him with WP? Can he beat a graded winner first or how about a two turn race?

The best handicappers can do it quite easily, and BTW is one of the best. It is not that hard to compare horses like these.

And it wasn't a 7f race. It was a mile.

I am challenging him. Let's see who is right.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**172** 03-06-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wouldn't a pudding wrestling contest between the two of you be much more fair?

Huh?

brianwspencer · #**173** 03-06-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

The best handicappers can do it quite easily, and BTW is one of the best. It is not that hard to compare horses like these.

And it wasn't a 7f race. It was a mile.

I am challenging him. Let's see who is right.

Sweet Jesus you're insufferable.

However, I commend those who have the energy to actually respond to all this nonsense, I tend to not even be able to gather the gusto to have a go at it.

freddymo · #**174** 03-06-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

The best handicappers can do it quite easily, and BTW is one of the best. It is not that hard to compare horses like these.

And it wasn't a 7f race. It was a mile.

I am challenging him. Let's see who is right.

You are right about the mile...No accuses should have realized that..I had his 7f split on my brain which was around the same as the other two nice colts that ran earlier on the card...nobody is suggesting he isn't any good... we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

brianwspencer · #**175** 03-06-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

Oh my god, this is amazing in so many ways.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**176** 03-06-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Sweet Jesus you're insufferable.

However, I commend those who have the energy to actually respond to all this nonsense, I tend to not even be able to gather the gusto to have a go at it.

I am relentless and competitive. I put my opinions out there. I am not afraid to take a stand. I am very confident about this. I find it funny that he won't. It's just comparing two horses' abilities.

Come on BTW, if I'm such a novice at this, if I'm so wrong and bad with this, why won't you take a stand?

blackthroatedwind · #**177** 03-06-2008, 12:58 PM

You don't take a stand.

You regurgitate the obvious.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**178** 03-06-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

You are right about the mile...No accuses should have realized that..I had his 7f split on my brain which was around the same as the other two nice colts that ran earlier on the card...nobody is suggesting he isn't any good... we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

It's okay. It happens to everyone.

I just recognize him for what he is....

Not getting my panties in a bunch, and certaintly not ready to build any statue. He's even been having issues as suggested by the long layoff.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**179** 03-06-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You don't take a stand.

You regurgitate the obvious.

I have taken a stand, just as I did a year ago with you concerning another horse. Now, what is yours? Do you agree with me or disagree? Who is the better horse?

freddymo · #**180** 03-06-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I am relentless and competitive. I put my opinions out there. I am not afraid to take a stand. I am very confident about this. I find it funny that he won't. It's just comparing two horses' abilities.

Come on BTW, if I'm such a novice at this, if I'm so wrong and bad with this, why won't you take a stand?

So if WP develops a quarter crack tomorrow and misses 6 months you are a genius? It's Fn horses .. WP hasn't done anything wrong as is extremely fast how the heck do you know what he is...he could be SSlew for all we know.. shut up and cheer for them both to be great. Why does anyone have to guess who will be better? As for who is better so far its a ridiculous question WP has been AWESOME