Top 25 3yo's 1987-2007

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by easy goer

So it's all based on Beyer numbers? I knew I was missing something.

Don't sell yourself short....you're missing more than that.

Being that most top horses retire early, and never get to meet horses of other generations, there really is no unbiased way to compare them without using speed figures. Since Beyers are the most widespread it is hardly surprising that people use them as the example.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't sell yourself short....you're missing more than that.

Being that most top horses retire early, and never get to meet horses of other generations, there really is no unbiased way to compare them without using speed figures. Since Beyers are the most widespread it is hardly surprising that people use them as the example.

You know what we ought to do is take the best sets of BSFs from three year olds to determine who really are the top 25. I wonder where Lionheart comes out. Or LITF, or Go for Gin..

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by easy goer

You know what we ought to do is take the best sets of BSFs from three year olds to determine who really are the top 25. I wonder where Lionheart comes out. Or LITF, or Go for Gin..

That may not be as easy as it appears. When the results are tabulated, they may need to 'adjust' the figures.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

That may not be as easy as it appears. When the results are tabulated, they may need to 'adjust' the figures.

Once again, as Beyer has said, they only adjust figs in an attempt to make them more accurate.

What is your, or any of the previous posters that took silly and ignorant potshots, knowledge of figuremaking? How many years did you make them? At what tracks? Where do you stand on split variants? How do you view pace as it affects final time and do you personally adjust your numbers to take this into account?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What is your, or any of the previous posters that took silly and ignorant potshots, knowledge of figuremaking? How many years did you make them? At what tracks? Where do you stand on split variants? How do you view pace as it affects final time and do you personally adjust your numbers to take this into account?

Not even pedigree snobs can compete with BSF snobs...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by easy goer

Not even pedigree snobs can compete with BSF snobs...

In your sort of desperate attempt to do God knows what you are completely missing the point.

The Beyers are just a reasonable way to compare horses that never had a chance to race against each other for whatever reason. I have no problem if anyone wants to use other speed figures, and surely there are some that others use here, but the Beyers are the most accessable.....and therefore easiest to use for comparison purposes here. That's all. We are just trying to compare horses.

The agenda here is by you to discredit something you don't understand. Nobody here is promoting Beyer figures.

[miraja2]

13 pages and the most obvious horse of all hasn't even been mentioned...




























































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[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by easy goer

You know what we ought to do is take the best sets of BSFs from three year olds to determine who really are the top 25. I wonder where Lionheart comes out. Or LITF, or Go for Gin..

Actually, that is the best idea on this thread. I wish I had access to all of them. I think 1987 was the first year they were published so they should all be out there somewhere. They (or other speed figures) are the only fair way to compare horses from different crops.