Kip Deville to dominate the VA derby

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't know Joel, Kinship had only one previous turf start, and while it didn't come up a particualrly fast race, it wasn't terrible, and he won by 8ish lengths. Whatever horse he was on the dirt previously becomes completely irrelevent as he is at least OK on the turf. I'm not sure who is so special in this race Saturday.

Believe me, I'm not crazy about Proudinsky, and I have reservations similar to yours. I do however think his performance was considerably better than it looks on paper.

The Werner camp is one that I'm pretty close to and we were all over him in the betting in his maiden and recent stakes win, but they don't think he is good enough to win the Secretariat....just saying....and I know Arbuckle Bandit well from the Fair Grounds @ LaD meet and he was a claimer back then...I know he has improved since the claim but he was still a claimer and doesn't even have a grass pedigree, which also doesn't always mean anything....I agree taht fresh bloos may be the way to go in a race like this if you do not believe that 'Kip' can wire....what is your take on Seaside Retreat?...I just think that he is a better 3YO King Cugat than Kingship so I am kind of leaning his way in EXs with Kip Deville....I hate the California horse and have never been a big Go Between fan....