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Old 07-06-2007, 11:19 AM
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Very good work. Hoping for a good post.
She running 1m right?

Post doesn't really matter that much IMO in these 1 turn mile events.....If anything, you don't want the rail, I have seen alot of horses duck the 2nd turn out of the chute.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM
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Scav, is the track playing to any particular paths?
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:34 PM
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Scav, is the track playing to any particular paths?
here's what I've seen for AP... you don't really want the rail for a mile and if you have your choice going around the turn, you're better off being toward the middle of the track than the rail. It's better to be 2 or 3 or even 4 wide from the days I've been there this year.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:38 PM
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Her natural speed will put her where she needs to be, if she could be sitting 3rd and get first run, the race will be over, unless Dreaming of Anna enters. (She worked today which is why I say something like that, joking of course)
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:02 PM
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here's what I've seen for AP... you don't really want the rail for a mile and if you have your choice going around the turn, you're better off being toward the middle of the track than the rail. It's better to be 2 or 3 or even 4 wide from the days I've been there this year.
Thanks - already planning the handicapping for the day
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:10 PM
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Why would we pay for Willie's flights if he ASKED for the mount? Just curious....
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:11 AM
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Why would we pay for Willie's flights if he ASKED for the mount? Just curious....
To maximize our chances for a win. The $300 is well worth it to have a rider who knows exactly what the horse is capable of.. exactly what the horse's indiosyncracies are.. exactly what to expect when asking the horse to go, to rate, to back off, etc..
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:19 AM
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To maximize our chances for a win. The $300 is well worth it to have a rider who knows exactly what the horse is capable of.. exactly what the horse's indiosyncracies are.. exactly what to expect when asking the horse to go, to rate, to back off, etc..
I think the mere fact that he WANTS to travel to ride the horse is a good sign. He must certainly think she has something and he has said as much after races. This certainly isn't a massive money grab he's chasing here. Seems to me like he wants to keep the mount for possibilities of bigger things ahead.

(other than Brass Hat, I don't know of any other "big time" horses he has ridden...not sure.)
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:10 PM
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To maximize our chances for a win. The $300 is well worth it to have a rider who knows exactly what the horse is capable of.. exactly what the horse's indiosyncracies are.. exactly what to expect when asking the horse to go, to rate, to back off, etc..
i'm glad willie wants to ride our girl. he MUST think she is something special. i Honestly did NOT like the fact, willie didn't have the ride at first.
i'm much more comfortable with this race now.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:44 PM
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To maximize our chances for a win. The $300 is well worth it to have a rider who knows exactly what the horse is capable of.. exactly what the horse's indiosyncracies are.. exactly what to expect when asking the horse to go, to rate, to back off, etc..
seems like the right move to me. It's done all the time for very good reasons.
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:57 AM
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Steve,

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question. Too bad it wasn't a little more respectful and less condescending in tone and nature - you aren't talking to a 6 yr old here.
Tom,

You're right, and I apologize for the tone of the response. And I've edited it appropriately.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:11 PM
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There are other jocks in the AP colony that could ride SW just fine. They know the track's idiosyncrocies better than Willie - he hasn't ridden a race there this year, has he?. The trainer is more than capable of speaking to an AP jock to give him/her instructions as to how to ride the horse. As to loyalty to Willie - own a few more horses and get spun a few times by a "loyal" jock when he can get a better ride than yours, then talk to me about loyalty to a jock.
The decision to bring Willie in for this race was mine and mine alone. There are a few reasons that you may or may not agree with but let me lay them out for all.

I was not really comfortable with the Arlington regulars that we could have had for different reasons. One was the few jockeys that I know and think would fit the horse were already committed to regular customers or were not willing to commit. Number 2 reason is that Willie was eager to go to ride her which is always a plus considering she is the only shot for him to make a buck on Wed. Also he has been willing to come and work her and work with her in the morning which I very much appreciate. Dont forget he was willing to give her a shot when she was 40-1 and has been great with the partners that have been at the races.

The fact that he knows her always helps and the few hundred bucks that it costs to get him there to ride her is really insignifigant considering that the money is already in the account and is costing no one any out of pocket expenses.

If we are lucky enough to win next week and go on to Saratoga I doubt that Willie will be making the trip, but for the upcoming race I felt he gave us the best chance of success.

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Old 07-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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She running 1m right?

Post doesn't really matter that much IMO in these 1 turn mile events.....If anything, you don't want the rail, I have seen alot of horses duck the 2nd turn out of the chute.
exactly
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