Street Sense Derby Beyer: 110

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I agree with Beyer all-around....

Street Sense figures to get another excellent pace setup once again in the Preakness, but I've watched films of all his races, and I have some doubts regarding how effective he will be if he has to circle horses.

I think he's got a few bad habits and has a little hang in him late, and one of these days, when he catches a real slow paced race, and can't skate inside, he's going to look awfully ordinary on that day.

[jpops757]

Could it be the best horse was on the rail.Im sure no one expected SS to be on the rail .It was there for any of the 17 or 18 that were ahead of him. Somr times I wonder why we have photos to determine the winner. It makes no differance who actually wins. We need the "EXPERTS" to anaylize the race to tell who the real winner is.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Beyer picked Street Sense.....it's not like he bet Hard Spun and it's sour grapes.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I agree with Beyer all-around....

Street Sense figures to get another excellent pace setup once again in the Preakness, but I've watched films of all his races, and I have some doubts regarding how effective he will be if he has to circle horses.

I think he's got a few bad habits and has a little hang in him late, and one of these days, when he catches a real slow paced race, and can't skate inside, he's going to look awfully ordinary on that day.

The other thing is that you have to figure that CB is going to try that rail move at some point and get shut down.
But of course....the most logical place for that to happen would have been in a 20-horse field.....so who knows?
In the Preakness FFC is going to be backing up in a hurry so CB better hope he isn't coming back down the rail.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I agree with Beyer all-around....

Street Sense figures to get another excellent pace setup once again in the Preakness, but I've watched films of all his races, and I have some doubts regarding how effective he will be if he has to circle horses.

I think he's got a few bad habits and has a little hang in him late, and one of these days, when he catches a real slow paced race, and can't skate inside, he's going to look awfully ordinary on that day.

and he always re-switches leads late down the stretch. he's did it in the BC, Blue Grass and Derby. It's a bit unsettling.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I agree with Beyer all-around....

Street Sense figures to get another excellent pace setup once again in the Preakness, but I've watched films of all his races, and I have some doubts regarding how effective he will be if he has to circle horses.

I think he's got a few bad habits and has a little hang in him late, and one of these days, when he catches a real slow paced race, and can't skate inside, he's going to look awfully ordinary on that day.

It is really odd that all of his fast decisive wins have come when shooting thru the rail. He has yet to have shown an effective power move circling around horses into the stretch.

When he has tried to go outside you are right, he looked more ordinary.
I'm not trying to be nitpicky, I like the horse and all. Its just odd

[lemoncrush]

I picked Street Sense to win, but that was the most gifted trip I've ever seen in all the Derby's I've watched (which isn't as many as most of you, but still).
However, not every horse would have had the acceleration to move through the rail that quick. Borel's patience and timing were amazing.

Still, if the 19 other idiot jockey's didn't see it coming last Saturday, you better believe they'll force Street Sense wide and circle horses in the Preakness.

With a horse that ducks around as much as he does, one would think blinkers might do a world of good.

[whodey17]

I agree he has some bad habits. Ducking in, switching leads back and forth down the stretch will someday cost him a race. But with love for the rail it seems real possible that he may never have to go around horses.

[10 pnt move up]

the rail was gold saturday, watch the races and fractions all day and how middle closers did in general, either the entire card was a bunch of hangers or it was the rail.....street sense wins regardless, but hard spun was carried by the rail

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

street sense wins regardless, but hard spun was carried by the rail

Both horses raced on the inside pretty much throughout---but Hard Spun earned the right to have the rail position by setting strong fractions to get it.

Street Sense--a deep closer---only had his rail position and got to pass 16 horses without leaving it because of misjudgements by other riders (Zanjero mainly) and because of a fearless and historically great ride by Borel.

If Hard Spun was carried by the rail...so was Sedgefield....and to a much greater extent Street Sense---because unlike HS and Sedge, Street Sense got the favorable pace to go with the rail position.