The worst pedigree wins the Derby

somerfrost · #1 05-06-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Some guy you never heard of. LOL, he has more knowledge in his left baby finger than you'll ever know. Look up His family tree. His family was winning races before you where even thought of, unbelievable. LOL

So, you are an expert regarding my knowledge of breeding etc? I didn't know I had a biographer! I don't know of the guy or his family...he could be the Pope for all I know...what I do know is that is a ridiculous statement. Again, others have detailed SS's pedigree...he has plenty of stamina in his dam side, seven Reines and the Ribot line in her five generation profile to mention just some! Bedazzle is by Dixieland Band out of the His Majesty (C) mare, Majestic Legend...His Majesty, a Classic CDR of some note is the son of the great sire Ribot (CP)...talk to me about class and stamina! His Majesty is also out of the Reine-de-race Flower Bowl, herself the daughter of reine, Flower Bed.
Other reines in Bedazzle's 5 generation family include Boudoir, Miss Disco, Delta Queen, Evening Mist, and Teresina.

Danzig · #2 05-06-2007, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So, you are an expert regarding my knowledge of breeding etc? I didn't know I had a biographer! I don't know of the guy or his family...he could be the Pope for all I know...what I do know is that is a ridiculous statement. Again, others have detailed SS's pedigree...he has plenty of stamina in his dam side, seven Reines and the Ribot line in her five generation profile to mention just some! Bedazzle is by Dixieland Band out of the His Majesty (C) mare, Majestic Legend...His Majesty, a Classic CDR of some note is the son of the great sire Ribot (CP)...talk to me about class and stamina! His Majesty is also out of the Reine-de-race Flower Bowl, herself the daughter of reine, Flower Bed.
Other reines in Bedazzle's 5 generation family include Boudoir, Miss Disco, Delta Queen, Evening Mist, and Teresina.

oh come now somer, quit displaying your lack of knowledge!

lol, i surely hope you know i'm just kidding you!!

somerfrost · #3 05-06-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh come now somer, quit displaying your lack of knowledge!

lol, i surely hope you know i'm just kidding you!!

I know Mrs Z, I stopped posting a lot of pedigree stuff a few years ago cause frankly most folks aren't that interested and unless you study the stuff, it makes little sense. Besides, folks can go to Dr Roman's site or read other real experts and get a better explanation than I can give. Back when Brock, Dragon and others were here (actually at ESPN) a lot, we had some good threads but there are always those who just don't want to hear it and I respect that...still, I'm not gonna sit back when someone makes a statement that is simply wrong. I believe that stamina does come primarily from the dam side but Street Sense certainly is not suffering in that regard.

Danzig · #4 05-06-2007, 01:36 PM

see, i enjoy pedigrees and going over them. fascinating to me. but yeah, not for everyone.

miraja2 · #5 05-06-2007, 01:39 PM

The bottom line here is that the original poster is just flat out WRONG.
Street Sense's 10f pedigree is perfectly acceptable, and anyone with half a brain knew that before the race. His sire won the richest 10f race in the WORLD for Christ's sake.
That post is absolutely ridiculous.

somerfrost · #6 05-06-2007, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2

The bottom line here is that the original poster is just flat out WRONG.
Street Sense's 10f pedigree is perfectly acceptable, and anyone with half a brain knew that before the race. His sire won the richest 10f race in the WORLD for Christ's sake.
That post is absolutely ridiculous.

Certainly...I do look closely at dam side so that's a point of discussion but as documented by several folks here, his dam side is well stocked with stamina influences.

brockguy · #7 05-07-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I know Mrs Z, I stopped posting a lot of pedigree stuff a few years ago cause frankly most folks aren't that interested and unless you study the stuff, it makes little sense. Besides, folks can go to Dr Roman's site or read other real experts and get a better explanation than I can give. Back when Brock, Dragon and others were here (actually at ESPN) a lot, we had some good threads but there are always those who just don't want to hear it and I respect that...still, I'm not gonna sit back when someone makes a statement that is simply wrong. I believe that stamina does come primarily from the dam side but Street Sense certainly is not suffering in that regard.

ah, the good ole days!!

somerfrost · #8 05-07-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy

ah, the good ole days!!

Yeah, I miss a lot of those folks, of course some I don't! Wish I knew what happened to Dragon, even Papa.

sumitas · #9 05-07-2007, 05:26 PM

umm, Bedazzled's direct family has no reines de course that i saw. yes, SS is related to Mr Greeley to some degree. but Spectacular Bid's family was often blamed for his lack of success at stud.

somerfrost · #10 05-07-2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas

umm, Bedazzled's direct family has no reines de course that i saw. yes, SS is related to Mr Greeley to some degree. but Spectacular Bid's family was often blamed for his lack of success at stud.

If you look at Bedazzle's 5 generation pedigree, you'll actually see a total of 12 reines-de-course, I listed the ones in her dam side but the total in her 5 generations is 12:
Nogara
Sister Sarah
Geisha
Flower Bowel
Flower Bed
Boudoir
Miss Disco
Delta Queen
Evening Mist
Teresina
Natalma
Almahmoud