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Old 05-04-2007, 09:20 PM
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If you compare Giacomo's form with Tiago's form---not only does Tiago's not look any better at all....but Giacomo's form was littered with sneaky good efforts.

All those people who felt the need to knock Curlin, based on historical old trends and stuff, well shouldn't the same apply to Tiago?

He was less than one week away from not racing as a 2-year-old, and he's only had four career races.

I guess Tiago's this years version of what people call "the wiseguy horse" -- but, I never really "got" that term anyway....so I don't know.

If I had to take a horse out of the Santa Anita Derby---it would most certainly be Sam P. --- I felt he got very rank in blinkers for the first time in the SA Derby, he's as one-paced as they come--and Ramon isn't going to move too soon....he can round out a superfecta for sure.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:19 PM
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He was less than one week away from not racing as a 2-year-old, and he's only had four career races.

I guess Tiago's this years version of what people call "the wiseguy horse" -- but, I never really "got" that term anyway....so I don't know.

If I had to take a horse out of the Santa Anita Derby---it would most certainly be Sam P. --- I felt he got very rank in blinkers for the first time in the SA Derby, he's as one-paced as they come--and Ramon isn't going to move too soon....he can round out a superfecta for sure.
Yeah I guess with Chelokee not in, Tiago's getting the attention. Given all the talk I'd assumed Zanjero would get more of a 'wiseguy horse' label but he's still a long price. Didn't Fusaichi Pegasus do the almost no starts at 2 thing and total races thing similarly to Tiago?

I kinda enjoy Sam P. for his Cat Thief/Affirmed relations. The thing is I feel like I've heard about him more than noticed him even though I've watched races with him in it. Visually it must not've popped to me but I might go back and watch them again.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:27 PM
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Are they not taking the blinkers off of Sam P. for this one? That is my understanding, hmmm. Wonder if that PP thing on the internet is uptodate should I rely on that?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:39 PM
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Sam P. got rank in blinkers last time....and I know Pletcher isn't a fool, I expect they will be off in the Derby.

The set of past performances I downloaded on Wednesday doesn't make note of either Sam P. or Liquidity taking the hood off....

However, the pp's on the racing forms website have them coming off.

http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...erby_basic.pdf
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