Best Turf Horse in America

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by ceejay

Pretty weak division. I can only really put Showing Up and Lava man (let's revisit in 2 weeks) there. maybe we'll see somithing out of some others this spring/summer.

i wouldnt put lava man on my list at all, because in cali or not i dont think he could beat the tin man

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i wouldnt put lava man on my list at all, because in cali or not i dont think he could beat the tin man

While The Tin Man was very consistent last year and ran a terrific race in the Arlington Million the horse was able to back the pace down to a ridiculous level. It was an absolutely masterful ride by Victor Espinoza, who is very tough on a frontrunner, but I would like to see The Tin Man win a race with A) a good field and B) run legitimate fractions en route to the victory. He is undoubtedly a top notch turfer in this country, these are just some things I'd like to see.

In a 1 1/4 mile race with more than one speed horse, give me English Channel over The Tin Man.

NT

[brockguy]

Bayeux was just off the top level here and should be very decent on turf and poly... there's a g1 in him i feel!

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Bayeux was just off the top level here and should be very decent on turf and poly... there's a g1 in him i feel!

i forgot about him, i like him very very much..... good post

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

While The Tin Man was very consistent last year and ran a terrific race in the Arlington Million the horse was able to back the pace down to a ridiculous level. It was an absolutely masterful ride by Victor Espinoza, who is very tough on a frontrunner, but I would like to see The Tin Man win a race with A) a good field and B) run legitimate fractions en route to the victory. He is undoubtedly a top notch turfer in this country, these are just some things I'd like to see.

In a 1 1/4 mile race with more than one speed horse, give me English Channel over The Tin Man.

NT

look at the tin mans pp's he has shown the ability to go very fast early and still be there late, also he ran huge in dubai, even at his old age i'd take him over english channel

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

While The Tin Man was very consistent last year and ran a terrific race in the Arlington Million the horse was able to back the pace down to a ridiculous level. It was an absolutely masterful ride by Victor Espinoza, who is very tough on a frontrunner, but I would like to see The Tin Man win a race with A) a good field and B) run legitimate fractions en route to the victory. He is undoubtedly a top notch turfer in this country, these are just some things I'd like to see.

In a 1 1/4 mile race with more than one speed horse, give me English Channel over The Tin Man.

NT

I dont understand why people are so hard on Tinny for the Arlington Million win. Is it his fault that the other jocks let him and Victor steal the race?hehe I also think the Dubai race was a brilliant race. He had a post that took the race out of his hands so to speak. Victor had to send him or get stuck down on the rail in major traffic, and for him to lead the whole way and just get beat by a very good horse(if you forgive the BC classic trainwreck) in David Junior.....but then agian I am just a tad prejudice!