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Old 03-17-2007, 09:33 PM
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100% right, in which case I am dead wrong. Maybe finished was a strong word. In the golden rail thread I said I thought he could win this race...But we'll see. Any Given Saturday impressed more but Street Sense definitely was good today, better than I thought he'd come back out of the gate.
I actually agree with you. The horse had front wraps on again today, and they are "most likely" trying to squeeze a couple of more races out of the horse. I like the Pletcher colt better for this reason.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:50 PM
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I actually agree with you.

This could be the harshest post Randall has been forced to endure.

Really, folks, no piling on!
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:50 PM
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Well, something obviously isn't right with the horse to be starting this late in the year whether or not the connections said that they had always planned on starting the horse this late. You don't start a legitimate Derby contender in the middle of March unless something is wrong. Plus, the connections said that they were having "growing" problems with the horse anyway yet they also said that the horse hadn't grew any taller or more muscular...
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:43 PM
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You don't start a legitimate Derby contender in the middle of March unless something is wrong. ...
March 17, 1973 - Secretariat makes his 3yo debut, winning the 7f Bay Shore S at Aqueduct over Champagne Charlie and Impecunious (who shipped out of town to win the Arkansas Derby next out). He went on to win the Gotham on April 7 (ETR) and lose the Wood Memorial on April 21. Turf writers wonder if he's finished, since he's by Bold Ruler (hasn't sired a Derby winner yet, despite siring gobs of top 2yos) and a half-brother to Sir Gaylord, who was an ante-post Derby favorite but got hurt before starting.

Not to say Street Sense is a Secretariat, but sweeping statements like this annoy me.
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:53 PM
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March 17, 1973 - Secretariat makes his 3yo debut, winning the 7f Bay Shore S at Aqueduct over Champagne Charlie and Impecunious (who shipped out of town to win the Arkansas Derby next out). He went on to win the Gotham on April 7 (ETR) and lose the Wood Memorial on April 21. Turf writers wonder if he's finished, since he's by Bold Ruler (hasn't sired a Derby winner yet, despite siring gobs of top 2yos) and a half-brother to Sir Gaylord, who was an ante-post Derby favorite but got hurt before starting.

Not to say Street Sense is a Secretariat, but sweeping statements like this annoy me.
Pedigree Ann you're my hero.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:55 PM
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March 17, 1973 - Secretariat makes his 3yo debut, winning the 7f Bay Shore S at Aqueduct over Champagne Charlie and Impecunious (who shipped out of town to win the Arkansas Derby next out). He went on to win the Gotham on April 7 (ETR) and lose the Wood Memorial on April 21. Turf writers wonder if he's finished, since he's by Bold Ruler (hasn't sired a Derby winner yet, despite siring gobs of top 2yos) and a half-brother to Sir Gaylord, who was an ante-post Derby favorite but got hurt before starting.

Not to say Street Sense is a Secretariat, but sweeping statements like this annoy me.
This is correct, but you can't really apply what Secretariat did in the 1970s to racing today. Training practices are very different and if you tried a training schedule like that nowadays, the horse would most likely never run again. I mean look at that...March 17 to April 7 to April 21 and then the first Saturday in May that year. Unbelievable. Plus, you are comparing Street Sense's campaign to an absolute freak of a horse's campaign. And who is to say that the reason that the connections of Secretariat waited so late in the year to start wasn't due to a little injury that was never released to the public. Secretariat never ran as a four year old right? Way too many unknown variables in there to compare Street Sense's late start in the year to Secretariat's....

Besides, the connections of Street Sense basically admitted that they were having issues with the horse...

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