Ann Coulter: Name-caller

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

It's a good argument...my response has to be in the form of a question though....do you really think that if we prosecuted members of the Bush Administration for "war crimes" or other misdeeds that the countries of the world would really care? Would it be seen as anything more than symbolic? Isn't the only way to undo the mistakes of the past is to chart a new course, new policies, new attitudes toward the world community? Tangible instead of symbolic...drug availability for AIDS victims, food for the starving, respect for all beliefs and a place at the table for the disenfranchised?

SF,
Here's one of my favorite quotations, "The longest journey begins with the first step."
The world has been held hostage to the decisions of the Bush administration equally as it once was to the decisions of Hitler and his supporters.
The United States set a standard of accountability.
Does the rest of the world care?
I can't answer that.
I'll just speak for myself. I do.
Can we undo mistakes?
No.
There are no do overs.
Can we forge new policies, new attitudes...even (dare I say? a new VISION rather than spreading greed, death and chaos)?
I certainly hope so.
The way to peace demands resolving the violence of the past. It also involves holding those that created war to account.
Once that step is taken, the next step can be taken.
If not, the feet become tangled and we all fall down.
Remember, "the longest journey begins with the first step."

Your visions of future needs like AIDS, food for the starving, respect for the beliefs of others...heck, let's also throw in cures for other diseases like cancers and cardio...also a renewable energy agenda based on hydrogen, and a resolution of global warming...

Unfortunately, unless the anchor rope that holds us to the past remains uncut, the anchor continues to hold the ship. There is no sailing.
There is also no safe harbor.

Peace.

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Somerfrost,
Please excuse my double post.
Your questions got me thinking.

I know you have a background in psychology and counseling.
So, if you don't mind my asking (and I only ask because I'm somewhat analytical), do you see familiar patterns between Ann, Bush, domestic violence, and other situations....?

The pattern:
1) Tension building (name calling, saber rattling, threat behaviors)
2) Outbreak of violence (invasion, aggression)
3) Period of remorse (excuse making, forgiveness seeking, promising to change...honeymoon coming)
4) Repeat steps 1-3...endlessly

Thanks for your anticipated response.

DTS

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Somerfrost,
Please excuse my double post.
Your questions got me thinking.

I know you have a background in psychology and counseling.
So, if you don't mind my asking (and I only ask because I'm somewhat analytical), do you see familiar patterns between Ann, Bush, domestic violence, and other situations....?

The pattern:
1) Tension building (name calling, saber rattling, threat behaviors)
2) Outbreak of violence (invasion, aggression)
3) Period of remorse (excuse making, forgiveness seeking, promising to change...honeymoon coming)
4) Repeat steps 1-3...endlessly

Thanks for your anticipated response.

DTS

Hummm, I would say it qualifies as an analogy but understand that you are comparing a personalized event with one of much larger scope...domestic violence almost always centers around control and the need to possess another person, there isn't a specific belief involved. Bush et al believe they are "right" and they have ultimate (as much as the Constitution allows anyway) power, an abusive spouse is seeking that control, that domination, that "ownership" if you will....different dynamics I think. Abuse comes from a bastardization of love while the actions of Bush could best be described as a bastardization of power...I agree the analogy is defensible but I would question whether it defines what has happened.

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Hummm, I would say it qualifies as an analogy but understand that you are comparing a personalized event with one of much larger scope...domestic violence almost always centers around control and the need to possess another person, there isn't a specific belief involved. Bush et al believe they are "right" and they have ultimate (as much as the Constitution allows anyway) power, an abusive spouse is seeking that control, that domination, that "ownership" if you will....different dynamics I think. Abuse comes from a bastardization of love while the actions of Bush could best be described as a bastardization of power...I agree the analogy is defensible but I would question whether it defines what has happened.

Thanks Somer,
I look at the actions rather than the motivations. You raise some interesting commonalities, control, power preservation (domination), breakdown of belief structures to remain "right".
There remain some that "love" Bush, and refuse to see his "bastardization of power".
Thanks for your insight. There just might be more similarities than I had previously seen.

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Back to Ann...
The Dems are appalled.
The Repubs are running away from her comments.
Now...the Conservatives weigh in...
http://www.kxmb.com/getARticle.asp?ArticleId=101563

Good bye Ann!

On a side note, if the peace makers are "blessed", where does that leave the war makers?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Back to Ann...
The Dems are appalled.
The Repubs are running away from her comments.
Now...the Conservatives weigh in...
http://www.kxmb.com/getARticle.asp?ArticleId=101563

Good bye Ann!

On a side note, if the peace makers are "blessed", where does that leave the war makers?

This is justice, her remarks should have consequences! Regarding your last sentence...don't try and simplify things that much...remember Ecclesiastes 3.

Someone at school told be she needed a good beehatch slap.

I think I understand what they meant now.