11/5 (KEE): Breeders' Cup Saturday

[Dahoss]

Is Country Grammer really a serious racehorse?

Someone has to win these races. His first grade 1 win was over the mighty Royal Ship and Express Train. The best horse he ever beat was probably Hot Rod Charlie, who is okay, but no one considers him a serious horse.

Horses like Skip Away, Holy Bull, Cigar, etc. would have lapped these horses.

I get being dramatic is an effective way to present your argument, but lets at least be realistic about these horses.

[Dahoss]

How many lengths would Candy Ride or Medaglia d'Oro have beaten Country Grammer by? 10? 15?

[Dahoss]

Imagine Country Grammer lining up against Gun Runner? Curlin? Formal Gold? Spectacular Bid?

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Imagine Country Grammer lining up against Gun Runner? Curlin? Formal Gold? Spectacular Bid?

Imagine FLIGHTLINE lining up against GUN RUNNER, CURLIN, FORMAL GOLD? He'd throttle all of those!

SPECTACULAR BID might have beaten FLIGHTLINE.

Let me help.

This thread is about FLIGHTLINE.

It's NOT about COUNTRY GRAMMER or me.

That would be a heck of a race.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Imagine FLIGHTLINE lining up against GUN RUNNER, CURLIN, FORMAL GOLD? He'd throttle all of those!

SPECTACULAR BID might have beaten FLIGHTLINE.

Let me help.

This thread is about FLIGHTLINE.

It's NOT about COUNTRY GRAMMER or me.

That would be a heck of a race.

Everything is about you Vic. Everyone knows that.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Everything is about you Vic. Everyone knows that.

Who's everyone?

There's about 12 people that will interact with you.

You've repulsed the rest away.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Who's everyone?

There's about 12 people that will interact with you.

You've repulsed the rest away.

At least I didn't get caught trying to make a money grab with those sh.itty trip notes. You sure changed your tune quick there, huh?

Scumbag gets caught trying to charge the same fans you pretend to care so much about $75 for nothing and when called on it made up some BS story about it being for charity.

Go away Vic. Go play sword fights with that loser Mark Patterson and the other scumbags you kiss up to. No one is fooled by your BS here. You know that, which is why you stayed far away before the Breeders Cup.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Imagine FLIGHTLINE lining up against GUN RUNNER, CURLIN, FORMAL GOLD? He'd throttle all of those!

SPECTACULAR BID might have beaten FLIGHTLINE.

Let me help.

This thread is about FLIGHTLINE.

It's NOT about COUNTRY GRAMMER or me.

That would be a heck of a race.

Flightline is as good as I have seen. I am not going with any more or any less. I don't know if he would have beaten Ghostzapper might have might not who knows who cares. I don't know if he races Bid 10 times how many each of them win, but it ain't 10-0 Flightline and who cares anyhow. If they race enough, they all get beat they aren't machines

Originally Posted by freddymo

Flightline is as good as I have seen. I am not going with any more or any less. I don't know if he would have beaten Ghostzapper might have might not who knows who cares. I don't know if he races Bid 10 times how many each of them win, but it ain't 10-0 Flightline and who cares anyhow. If they race enough, they all get beat they aren't machines

SHARP POST

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Flightline is as good as I have seen. I am not going with any more or any less. I don't know if he would have beaten Ghostzapper might have might not who knows who cares. I don't know if he races Bid 10 times how many each of them win, but it ain't 10-0 Flightline and who cares anyhow. If they race enough, they all get beat they aren't machines

Candy Ride was 6 for 6, winning stakes on turf and dirt and ran a faster time in the Pacific Classic than Flightline did against a real serious horse in Medaglia d'oro. Not fake serious horses that Vic makes up because he's desperate to appear smart.

No one thinks he's the best horse ever, but he was really, really good. Flightline is really, really good. Who knows how good.

The desire for people like Vic to make proclamations says more about them and their need to be important.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Candy Ride was 6 for 6, winning stakes on turf and dirt and ran a faster time in the Pacific Classic than Flightline did against a real serious horse in Medaglia d'oro. Not fake serious horses that Vic makes up because he's desperate to appear smart.

No one thinks he's the best horse ever, but he was really, really good. Flightline is really, really good. Who knows how good.

The desire for people like Vic to make proclamations says more about them and their need to be important.

Stallion ads should be ridiculed by horseplayers, not proffered

[RolloTomasi]

Ironically, Formal Gold had nearly the exact same start to his career as Flightline except he subsequently had both the 3yo & 4yo campaigns that the connections Flightline ought to have pursued.

Or perhaps Formal Gold should have pursued the career arc of Flightline so that everyone would be calling the latter "the best horse since Formal Gold".

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How many lengths would Candy Ride or Medaglia d'Oro have beaten Country Grammer by? 10? 15?

That sounds about right. Meaning FLIGHTLINE would have beaten them by 4 1/2 lengths.

Thanks for proving my point.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is Country Grammer really a serious racehorse?

Someone has to win these races. His first grade 1 win was over the mighty Royal Ship and Express Train. The best horse he ever beat was probably Hot Rod Charlie, who is okay, but no one considers him a serious horse.

Horses like Skip Away, Holy Bull, Cigar, etc. would have lapped these horses.

I get being dramatic is an effective way to present your argument, but lets at least be realistic about these horses.

Didn't he win $10 million in a year? Sounds serious to me. You're right SKIP AWAY, HOLY BULL and CIGAR would have lapped those horses. They wouldn't have beaten FLIGHTLINE in the Pacific Classic.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Didn't he win $10 million in a year? Sounds serious to me. You're right SKIP AWAY, HOLY BULL and CIGAR would have lapped those horses. They wouldn't have beaten FLIGHTLINE in the Pacific Classic.

He won 10 million in a year because he ran in a 12 million dollar race and a 20 million dollar race.

Then he got beat on the square by Royal Ship and Defunded.

Serious stuff.